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YouTube Sports injury Doctor thinks Zion will continue to trend down athletically
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:19 am
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Athletic article so behind a paywall, this is just the quote I blatantly stole from Reddit
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I hate it but he makes a good point. We don’t know if it’s possible he can trend positively again if he wasn’t able to after this kind of break. I doubt he gets much of a break before next season. Hopefully his youth is enough to give him a chance to recover and reverse trend
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Strauss] Dr. Brian Sutterer: "Zion is in a race against his own body. If you go watch his Duke highlights compared to now, the difference is profound. In my opinion, his athleticism and conditioning have regressed substantially"
> Dr. Brian Sutterer, of sports injury YouTube fame, has been watching intently and has his concerns. “He’s in a race against his own body,” Dr. Sutterer said over the phone. “If you go watch his Duke highlights compared to now, the difference is profound. In my opinion, his athleticism and conditioning have regressed substantially. He’s less explosive, less conditioned, slower on defense, has already had a portion of his meniscus removed from his knee after an injury, and he’s still under close monitoring from the medical staff.”
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> Through all the immediate Twitter buzz over Zion’s run, Dr. Sutterer sees a troubling long term trend. “I feel like nobody really wants to call it like we all see it,” Dr. Sutterer said. “He’s trying to reverse a career trajectory that by the Pelicans’ own admission is worrisome as evidenced by his ‘reprogramming’ and scrutinized minutes. He had four months to start making positive strides and to me he’s regressed more. When will he finally start to reverse course? Will it be in time before more substantial fitness concerns and injuries limit him and threaten his career? Instead of outpacing these risks, I’m worried that Zion is losing the race.”
Athletic article so behind a paywall, this is just the quote I blatantly stole from Reddit
LINK
I hate it but he makes a good point. We don’t know if it’s possible he can trend positively again if he wasn’t able to after this kind of break. I doubt he gets much of a break before next season. Hopefully his youth is enough to give him a chance to recover and reverse trend
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:29 am to Fun Bunch
I tend to agree with the doctor. You see the athleticism, but the dude is a 20 year old that gets winded after running for 4 minutes. Unless he drastically changes, he is only going to get heavier.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:32 am to Upperdecker
No negativity in here today. We're making a playoff push. Shut up and sit down.
Also, he looks less explosive than he did in college because the talent he's playing against in the NBA is exponentially better than he was playing against at Duke. Give him time.
Also, he looks less explosive than he did in college because the talent he's playing against in the NBA is exponentially better than he was playing against at Duke. Give him time.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:33 am to saints5021
quote:Fun to constantly speculate on a message board, but none of us have the facts.
I tend to agree with the doctor. You see the athleticism, but the dude is a 20 year old that gets winded after running for 4 minutes. Unless he drastically changes, he is only going to get heavier.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:34 am to Upperdecker
It's all going to come down to his dedication or lack thereof with his conditioning. We'll see this offseason if he transforms back into the freakish specimen he was at Duke, or if he lets himself go and trends the way that he has been trending. He's only 20. He will have top of the line personal trainers. It's up to him. I believe in him.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:40 am to saints5021
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but the dude is a 20 year old that gets winded after running for 4 minutes.
He's playing with the best athletes in the world. Running with them for 4 minutes straight in the Pels system is a lot
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:42 am to Upperdecker
It’s been the pelicans that have failed him in year 1. Where is the personal chef & trainer they talked about with him?
When he got drafted they paraded him all around creation when he should have been focused on getting in shape.
They need to get it together or this Dr is right. He can’t keep playing at this weight
When he got drafted they paraded him all around creation when he should have been focused on getting in shape.
They need to get it together or this Dr is right. He can’t keep playing at this weight
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:44 am to BigDawg0420
I think if the shutdown never happened, Zion would have been right around where we all expected him to be (visually) at season's end...
Maybe I'm misremembering but I certainly thought he was trending in the right direction as the season went along
Maybe I'm misremembering but I certainly thought he was trending in the right direction as the season went along
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:54 am to jmcwhrter
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If you go watch his Duke highlights compared to now, the difference is profound. In my opinion, his athleticism and conditioning have regressed substantially. He’s less explosive, less conditioned, slower on defense, has already had a portion of his meniscus removed from his knee after an injury, and he’s still under close monitoring from the medical staff.”
Has nothing to do with anything regressing. It is because he is about 30lbs heavier than he was at duke lol. You will be slower, less explosive, less conditioned, and slower on defense when you add 30lbs of fat. What a knucklehead
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:58 am to J_Hingle
Man, Zion literally can’t even walk without ppl criticizing his weight and athleticism. It’s crazy
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:01 am to Mad Scientist26
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criticizing his weight and athleticism
One of these should be criticized. He is a professional athlete and judging by his body he hasn't taken his diet too serious
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:06 am to Upperdecker
quote:I mean, other than this specific part, everything else he's said is no different than what we've been saying on this board and collectively what everyone around the NBA has been saying.
thinks Zion will continue to trend down athletically
Such as:
quote:
If you go watch his Duke highlights compared to now, the difference is profound. In my opinion, his athleticism and conditioning have regressed substantially"
quote:
He’s less explosive, less conditioned, slower on defense, has already had a portion of his meniscus removed from his knee after an injury, and he’s still under close monitoring from the medical staff.”
That's exactly what we've been saying around here for a long time now.
It's not THAT crazy to wonder what things will look like long term for Zion.
quote:This definitely concerns me. 4 months to get in peak physical shape, and I'm not trying to downplay leaving the bubble for 13 days, but he left the bubble and it undid the 4 months of work AND made him somehow in worse shape than he was before the 4 months? And that doesn't concern any Pels fan?
He had four months to start making positive strides and to me he’s regressed more.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:08 am to Upperdecker
You hear in collegiate and professional sports about guys not being able to practice and/or play until they reach their target weight. Might have to implement that with Zion.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:10 am to shel311
I get what he is saying but he is not as athletic as he was at duke simply because he is much heavier. He is still the most athletic 300lb plus player you will see lol. He isn't regressing athletically he just simply needs to lose all that weight. If he was to get back into peak shape then there wouldn't be any concern about his athleticism. That is my issue with these statements.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:19 am to J_Hingle
quote:But how do the Pels allow this to happen?
It is because he is about 30lbs heavier than he was at duke lol. You will be slower, less explosive, less conditioned, and slower on defense when you add 30lbs of fat. What a knucklehead
We have Aaron Nelson, the best in the business. We know Zion was allowed to come to the training facility basically every day during the 4 months of quarantine, so what is going on that allowed him to not get in peak physical shape?
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:19 am to shel311
Yea it’s what we’ve been saying, but this is a sports medicine MD saying it
I don’t think leaving the bubble suddenly caused him to lose his athleticism. I don’t think he was up to par before he left. We just hadn’t seen enough to know that, and Pels sources hadn’t reported it
I’m worried about his athleticism for sure, he isn’t the player we drafted. Hopefully he can develop his game until he gets his conditioning back and recovers his athleticism
I don’t think leaving the bubble suddenly caused him to lose his athleticism. I don’t think he was up to par before he left. We just hadn’t seen enough to know that, and Pels sources hadn’t reported it
I’m worried about his athleticism for sure, he isn’t the player we drafted. Hopefully he can develop his game until he gets his conditioning back and recovers his athleticism
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:20 am to Upperdecker
This thread will be fun to revisit in a few years
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:23 am to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:I didn't read the entire article, just the quotes from the OP, and they don't match the title of this thread.
This thread will be fun to revisit in a few years
Maybe the Dr did say he will continue to trend down in the article, but from the quotes, the Dr just says he has concerns about the current trend, which again, seems like all of us here on this board have had these same concerns.
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