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re: Your boy Flecher on 1280 am Eric Asher show..Phoenix is a darkhorse
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:36 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:36 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Who will be the better player in the league in your view?
Ayton v RJ Barrett
Ayton v Culver
Ayton v Garland
The better player, or the more impactful player? I would probably take Barrett and Garland (I actually like Garland over Barrett) over Ayton as more impactful players, I don’t know that much about Culver. I just think it’s hard to build a team around a scoring big (with no 3 pt shot), who is below average on defense.
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:37 pm to LosLobos111
i remember hating on wiggins pretty hardcore after his super meh freshman year
dudes on the MSB still held out hope for years and years
dudes on the MSB still held out hope for years and years
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:37 pm to Lester Earl
Then a lot of professional scouts should be out of work considering the various misses that happen every year in the NBA draft.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:37 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
a scoring big (with no 3 pt shot),
yet
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:39 pm to LosLobos111
Oh god yes. I remember teams “Riggin’ For Wiggins”.
People pretend that Wiggins wasn’t so extremely hyped as a pick because he has underwhelmed so much, but the perception of him at the time of the draft was a sure thing. As opposed to someone like Michael Bennett.
People pretend that Wiggins wasn’t so extremely hyped as a pick because he has underwhelmed so much, but the perception of him at the time of the draft was a sure thing. As opposed to someone like Michael Bennett.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
BJL went all in on wiggins
and fletcher loves the fact that his trade that has no chance of happening garnered 8 pages on Pels Talk
and fletcher loves the fact that his trade that has no chance of happening garnered 8 pages on Pels Talk
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, I mean if he starts shouting 3’s and ups his defense to about average, then I would lean that way I suppose.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
KAT obviously over Wiggins.
Wiggins is junk. Not exactly what I would target for a wing
Barrett has way more upside & I think Shai does too
Wiggins is junk. Not exactly what I would target for a wing
Barrett has way more upside & I think Shai does too
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:50 pm to Epic Cajun
>Can guard 3 positions
>Elite defender
>Solid playmaker that's smart and makes the right play
>excels at off motion ball plays
>Good enough athlete
>Quality Rebounder
>Jack of all trades master of none
>Streaky af shooter and shot selection can get wonky
>Not the athlete or upside RJ has
>Elite defender
>Solid playmaker that's smart and makes the right play
>excels at off motion ball plays
>Good enough athlete
>Quality Rebounder
>Jack of all trades master of none
>Streaky af shooter and shot selection can get wonky
>Not the athlete or upside RJ has
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:51 pm to teke184
quote:
Then a lot of professional scouts should be out of work considering the various misses that happen every year in the NBA draft.
Right, but they all have that guy at 1.4 that they think is next
4 to 6 is a pretty big jump knowing with each spot down the lottery, your chances of finding the next big thing diminish quickly. Of course there are always outliers, but value in a vacuum is what it is
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:54 pm to Lester Earl
I like SGA a lot but you are vastly overrating him.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:02 pm to teke184
They were legitimately wondering if it would match 03
It was a very solid draft but they waaaaay overhyped it
It was a very solid draft but they waaaaay overhyped it
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:03 pm to Fun Bunch
I know he played heavy minutes on a playoff team as a 20yr old, and played damn good. He’s long, efficient, and multi dimensional. You want your Brogdon, here he is
And that given his situation coming out of college, was likely underrated.
And that given his situation coming out of college, was likely underrated.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:07 pm to Lester Earl
quote:And yet rookies/top draft picks who normally go to shite teams have never gotten buckets as efficiently as Ayton, so...
Just as much so as it is to get buckets when the other team has already ran you out of the building
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:10 pm to Lester Earl
I agree with you to a certain degree, I like him a lot.
But his PER was 13.4. That’s Dennis Smith territory.
Ayton’s was 20.5.
But his PER was 13.4. That’s Dennis Smith territory.
Ayton’s was 20.5.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:12 pm to Fun Bunch
You don’t think Ayton is being vastly overrated here?
People are speaking if him like he’s guaranteed to improve his shooting, defense, passing, ability to get to the line etc
SGA doesn’t get the benefit of such projectability?
if both hypothetically reach their peak and max out their skills wouldn’t you want SGA
People are speaking if him like he’s guaranteed to improve his shooting, defense, passing, ability to get to the line etc
SGA doesn’t get the benefit of such projectability?
if both hypothetically reach their peak and max out their skills wouldn’t you want SGA
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:20 pm to GynoSandberg
What? Of course not. Ayton’s ceiling is way higher and he had a better rookie season.
How is that even a question?
I understand you’re obsessed with position. Trust me, I want wings. No one has beat the drums for our aversion to wings more than me.
How is that even a question?
I understand you’re obsessed with position. Trust me, I want wings. No one has beat the drums for our aversion to wings more than me.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:21 pm to Fun Bunch
I can't believe one of Fletch's cockamamie trade ideas has us going 9 pages deep so far
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:21 pm to LesGeaux45
It has more merit to it than a lot of the “trade ideas” thrown around involving the Lakers or Knicks.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:27 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:Ayton has the higher, more realistic upside.
You don’t think Ayton is being vastly overrated here?
People are speaking if him like he’s guaranteed to improve his shooting, defense, passing, ability to get to the line etc
SGA doesn’t get the benefit of such projectability?
if both hypothetically reach their peak and max out their skills wouldn’t you want SGA
And also, Ayton is being more underrated than he is overrated IMO. I'm pretty sure LE said he'd take #6 overall over Ayton.
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