re: Yearly NBA trade thread, BREAKING: Mark Williams trade rescinded by Lakers

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Porter for BI straight up..get it done.

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Can’t happen, with Denver in the apron they would have to send out more salary than they take in. BI makes about 300k more than Porter, so Denver would have to add a salary to him. Becomes tricky because Denver is in the 2nd apron, so they have to shed quite a bit to drop under, which means we would need a 3rd team involved.

Something like this would work IMO:
Nugs: Ingram, Theis
Pistons: MPJ, JRE
Pels: Saric, Thompson, Stewart

I think Denver’s highest motivator is the salary shedding as their roster is getting very expensive.

Pistons can sell MPJ as a co-star for Cade

Pels get a young defensive wing they would love in Ausur, a physical big with an attitude in Stewart that we need, and Saric is just salary. Gets us 8 million below the tax also, giving us an advantage in any future trade talks for CJ, Zion etc as teams know we don’t have to trade them to shed salary.

You’re correct, I looked at the numbers wrong, Denver is not in the 2nd apron they’re hard capped at the 2nd apron.

I still would do that deal though, don’t want MPJ on this team with his back issues, that contract will be a nightmare for us IMO.

Plus as you said, that would push us further into the tax, which we will not do.

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Gotta acquire assets and not mpj like you said - gotta wonder if there's a way to obtain ivey in any of this. He's the ideal young guard you would like to chase in any of this, but if so - I think Ingram or zion goes to them for Harris (filler) and ivey - not mpj.

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Problem with Ivey is he only has one year under contract after this season, so we would only have a limited time to evaluate his fit with us and then pretty much have to decide whether to sign him to 100 million plus deal this offseason or go into the season with him as an expiring/RFA.

I would prefer a rookie or 2nd year player.

I said this in the other trade thread. I agree on paper that DET seems like a logical trade partner, but I don’t think they are looking to make any moves to seriously improve yet. DET 1st pick is owed to NYK, but it’s 1-13 protected this year, 1-11 in 26, 1-9 in 27, and then converts to 2nds. I’m not sure they want to hold off improving for that long, but with them already borderline play-in and with strength of this draft, I don’t see them doing anything that would jeopardize that pick until at least next season

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This is floating around, but unless Milwaukee is able to get a third team involved to take on Middleton it can’t happen.

If Detroit would do Middleton for THJ, then CJ to Bucks, Portis and THJ to Pels, Kris to Pistons works

Problem comes in Milwaukee not having draft capital

Bro, bringing Unc Bobby Portis over to punch Zion in the face would be well worth it. I’m in on this deal.

The only player that seems to make sense on their roster is brook Lopez but he's expiring.

That’s a good thing…it’s a salary saving option. We can’t afford everyone’s salary next year.

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What's the point of that trade

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As I said what complicates it is Milwaukee not having draft assets to send out. We would need at least a pick and so would Detroit. Now you could obviously get even more teams involved to get other assets to make the Pels and Pistons happy, but that would be dependent on another team valuing Middleton or Portis or Pat enough to give up assets.

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The only player that seems to make sense on their roster is brook Lopez but he's expiring.

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He doesn’t make enough money. It would only be doable with Midldeton and Portis or Connaughton salaries going out as Milwaukee would have to send out enough to get below the 2nd apron.

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Bucks can’t aggregate salaries

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They can if they go below the 2nd apron. Middleton and one of Portis or Pat C going out while they only bring back CJ would work. Only way that works is to get Detroit involved.

If they send out Middleton and Pat C that would leave them around 1.2 million below the 2nd apron, if they sent out Portis instead that would have them around 4.5 million below. Either trade gets us out of the tax also, obviously more so with Pat C than with Portis.

Just read a trade proposal on the internet made by a guy that follows the Pacers

He suggested, Zion for Obi Toppin, Nesmith, Mathurin and a 2028 1st

I’d honestly be all over that. The Pels reportedly wanted Mathurin in the draft. Nesmith and Toppin both defend decently and hit 3’s. Current Toppin is actually more athletic than current Zion.

A trade like this would be a get out of jail free card for the Pels. We could’ve gotten better value a few years ago, but I like the sound of 3 solid, high character, modern nba players and a pick over Zion at this point.

Murray, Jose
Herb, Mathurin
Trey, Nesmith
Obi
Missi

Hawk, Boston as other pieces

Plus whatever we get from Ingram and CJ trades and whoever our draft pick is this summer

Not nearly enough value for Zion, would need multiple 1sts and swaps