re: Yearly NBA trade thread, BREAKING: Mark Williams trade rescinded by Lakers

Posted by teke184

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:42 pm to Soggymoss

That Charlotte one isn’t going to convey as a first so they likely get seconds out of it.

It is lottery protected through this year then drops off the chart.

Posted by Soggymoss

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:43 pm to supe12sta12z

They did get a steal. They basically got Fox for 2 1st round picks because the Charlotte and Bulls ones weren’t conveying anyway.

Trade value market has taken a HUGE hit today.

Posted by supe12sta12z

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:45 pm to Soggymoss

Pelicans are now the bottom feeders of the Division as well as the West. Ouch. The future is bleak.

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:47 pm to supe12sta12z

Still not as bad as maverick fans feel rn tho.

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:53 pm to supe12sta12z

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:54 pm to supe12sta12z

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Spurs didn't have to give up any players in that deal.

They got a steal.

I'm not much of a big Fox fan, but this for sure.

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:56 pm to Soggymoss

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Trade value market has taken a HUGE hit today.

That's what I was saying earlier. With the 2nd apron it's a new era.

Posted by TigerinATL

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:58 pm to SlowFlowPro

It's a good thing Griff invested the warchest well, it will come in handy in the new trade market

Flipside, how rich is OKC?

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:00 pm to TigerinATL

OKC has so many 1sts it works against them in trades

Their team is badass so it doesn't matter (and I'm sure they end up with a couple top 5 picks), but that war chest isn't going to amount to what it seems like now.

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:32 pm to SlowFlowPro

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Wonder if this has Warriors pivot to Ingram?

Either they need to get another guy or trade Steph.

With the way this deadline is going they’ll probably trade Steph to OKC for 2nds

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Posted by teke184

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:58 pm to Soggymoss

What does a BI to Warriors deal look like?

Most of what I see would involve someone like Andrew Wiggins coming back, which is not really what I’d want no matter how many picks come with him.

I’d say we need a third team to eat contracts or turn one bad deal for a player we can’t use into a bad deal for a player we could use.

Posted by Soggymoss

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:07 pm to teke184

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What does a BI to Warriors deal look like?

Would depend on the 3rd team that gets involved really.

Maybe something with Chicago involved?

Bulls: Wiggins, GP3, JRE, pick from Warriors

Warriors: Ingram, Theis, Green

Pels: Ball, Jalen Smith, Kuminga

With this we could maybe keep Ball around for next season on a small deal to fill in for Murray

Something with Utah

Jazz: Wiggins, Looney

Warriors: Ingram, Green, Theis

Pels: Collins, Kuminga

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:14 pm to Soggymoss

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Pels: Ball, Jalen Smith, Kuminga

I would fist pump

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Posted by Soggymoss

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:16 pm to SlowFlowPro

Yeah, at this point I’m not even thinking about any picks, just want to get a player we can use

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:21 pm to Soggymoss

People said I was hot taking this offseason, but there's a bunch of paths where Kuminga is a better asset than Zion in 2-ish years. Zion getting hurt (again) really helped out that theory.

Kuminga is also about 2.25 years younger, just FWIW.

Kuminga is never going to hit Zions potential peak, but I think almost all of us agree Zion is not going to his Zion's potential peak anymore, either.

Posted by THRILLHO

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:32 pm to SlowFlowPro

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Their team is badass so it doesn't matter (and I'm sure they end up with a couple top 5 picks), but that war chest isn't going to amount to what it seems like now.

They've been killing the draft, though. The trade value has taken a hit, but it will help a cash-poor team stay elite for a while while avoiding heavy taxes (assuming that they can keep the front office together and they keep drafting at a high level, which is going to be tricky). If they're stuck with picks that they don't want to use, they can sell them (I think for up to $3m) to help with taxes, or trade them for picks years away to kick the can.

But OKC finished first in the west last season, and had a fairly disappointing postseason. If that happens again, I think that they're going to package picks + salary (Hart, Caruso or Dort) to find another legit stud alongside SGA.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:36 pm to THRILLHO

THAT is a Giannis destination.

Posted by THRILLHO

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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro

Yeah.

If OKC doesn't at least make WCF, they should be buying.

If MIL doesn't at least make ECF, they should probably be selling.