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re: Would any team in the league trade Dyson Daniels for Dejounte Murray?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:56 pm to gsmith5651
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:56 pm to gsmith5651
Wait, who found the O?
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:02 am to PELsu
Listening to a Bill Simmons podcast this morning, as he went through a bunch of the NBA teams.
He must have read this thread.
Simmons on the Hawks, "I have Daniels by himself ranked higher than DeJounte Murray, and the Hawks got Nance and two first-rounders in the trade."
Yep.
He must have read this thread.
Simmons on the Hawks, "I have Daniels by himself ranked higher than DeJounte Murray, and the Hawks got Nance and two first-rounders in the trade."
Yep.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:25 am to shel311
quote:
At no point in your reply to did you even attempt to discuss any of my point you replied to, which is Dyson's offense is really bad and there's no guarantee it'll ever be good enough to be a viable playoff rotation dude.
I’m guessing you were the ones that said he’s not good enough to be a rotational guy. But he might be 1st team all defense this year.
I’d have to go look at some of your post history to see what you were babbling about.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:27 am to shel311
quote:
like when you claimed all of Pels Talk said Trey had the most value on the team.
I think I said with contracts being included, Herb might be worth more than Trey. Am I wrong on that? After this year, looks like I nailed it.
quote:
You don't try to discuss things in good faith, all you want to do is talk about how you were right then pretend EVERYONE else had the opposite opinion, which you almost always exaggerate to make yourself look good.
There were a few hardcore DD guys but not many. I can bump the threads to show, but the haters will just ignore them like usual.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:30 am to gsmith5651
quote:
Wasn't agood trade. Cheap and great D. Looks like he found the O.
Why is it that only (1) team can "win" a trade in some people's minds?
Shel agreed that if we knew how this seasons played out then the trade probably wouldn't have happened.
This thread probably isn't made if Murray doesn't miss 1-2 months starting the season.
Murray is still a better overall player than Dyson. Dyson very well could end up way better.
How can you even bitch about this shite knowing that he would probably leave once he gets to that point anyway?
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:35 am to Dantheman504
What people really should be arguing over is trading Herb instead of Dyson and keeping our picks.
IMO the best case scenario was to keep both but Herb would have been worth alot more at the time.
IMO the best case scenario was to keep both but Herb would have been worth alot more at the time.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:43 am to SEC Doctor
quote:One idiot I would never listen to. However, it would be interesting to know where he stood before the trade. He is a typical hindsight person.
Listening to a Bill Simmons podcast this morning, as he went through a bunch of the NBA teams.
He must have read this thread.
Simmons on the Hawks, "I have Daniels by himself ranked higher than DeJounte Murray, and the Hawks got Nance and two first-rounders in the trade."
Yep.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:58 am to NOSHAU
quote:
In a few years, I think we will regret this trade. Basically three first round picks. I’m fine with the Lakers pick, it could still hit. I’m not including Dyson in this trade. Hawk I was ok with since he just got here. For Trae I would have understood for Dyson. But for Murray? This isn’t Griffs biggest blunders but I’m not fond of this trade.
Receipts from the trade thread.
33 downvotes 2 upvotes
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=113930138&s=2&p=113928402#113930138
Has only been a few months and looks like I called it already….
Guess the two upvotes were the other hardcore DD guys…
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:37 pm to SEC Doctor
quote:Which is batshit crazy.
Listening to a Bill Simmons podcast this morning, as he went through a bunch of the NBA teams.
He must have read this thread.
Simmons on the Hawks, "I have Daniels by himself ranked higher than DeJounte Murray, and the Hawks got Nance and two first-rounders in the trade."
Yep.
No one in their right mind should think Dyson Daniels is better than Dejounte Murray right now...because he isn't, nor is it close.
Dyson has potential, he has a ways to go to meet that potential. He's a completely liability on the offensive side of the ball. Since that awesome 2 game sample(again, that showed his potential) the last 12 games he's playing 34mpg and averaging less points than FG attempts...it's really bad.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:41 pm to Townedrunkard
Again, you're not talking about anything I said in my post you replied to. My point still stands. I made a post and a point...you made zero attempt to discuss that point, but you quoted it to reply and tell us all how you were right about Dyson, only you, and everyone else in the world was wrong....it's just a tired act at this point, especially when it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.
Crazy that you said you'd have to go read my post history and not, ya know, the post I made that you replied to
quote:Or...and try to stay with me here, you could have just read the post of mine you quoted. Pretty sure this statement of yours just admitted you didn't even read what I said, you just say "Dyson" and felt you had to tell us how you're the only Pels fan in the world who was right about him.
I’d have to go look at some of your post history to see what you were babbling about.
Crazy that you said you'd have to go read my post history and not, ya know, the post I made that you replied to
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:43 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:Me: No one cares if you think you're right about every single player evaluation you make
There were a few hardcore DD guys but not many. I can bump the threads to show, but the haters will just ignore them like usual.
You: Wanna see some sold posts where I was right about a player?
That self awareness, woo boy...it's not good.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:45 pm to gsmith5651
quote:He found his O....what?
Wasn't agood trade. Cheap and great D. Looks like he found the O.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:22 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:
This isn’t Griffs biggest blunders but I’m not fond of this trade.
Exactly so why make a such a big deal about it? We haven't even seen the max of what Murray can do for us.
I went back and forth with people more than you in some of those threads and still agree that the trade should have been made.
My argument was specifically about DD's value and potential. Has nothing to do with the trade. They were always going to get 1 of the 2 defenders for Murray. And it was still a good trade.
Go ahead and preach about being right about DD's abilities I'm right there with you. But its stupid to make it a trade comparison and try to argue about not doing the trade.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:18 pm to Dantheman504
List of NBA players currently averaging at least 12 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, .9 blocks, 2 steals:
Dyson Daniels
Dyson Daniels
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:42 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
Go ahead and preach about being right about DD's abilities I'm right there with you. But its stupid to make it a trade comparison and try to argue about not doing the trade.
quote:
My argument was specifically about DD's value and potential. Has nothing to do with the trade. They were always going to get 1 of the 2 defenders for Murray. And it was still a good trade.
I’ll stick with my guns and say I wouldn’t have made the trade. If Trae was coming back, then yea I could live with it. Not sure Murray is a huge needle mover and where else was he getting traded? Most teams had their pg and didn’t really need him.
Was it a bad trade, no. I’ve seen much more idiotic moves out of Griff and even said so in the thread.
If I was Griff I was holding on to Herb and DD and pushing BI to them for Murray. I did a thread on here before the trade and majority thought BI had more trade value than Murray. It seemed like that trade would have benefitted both teams. And we shouldve been able to hang on to our other assets. But that’s just me.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:48 pm to SEC Doctor
You are incorrect, sir!
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