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re: Woj Bombs: LAL, LAC, MIL,NYK all on AD's list; LAL and Pels have cont'd talks

Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:01 pm to
why are we not entertaining offers for jrue holiday? we turned down charlottes inquiry already. Isnt he messing up the tank for us?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:01 pm to
i don't understand why we shite on this deal and not the Bos deal. Is tatum really that much better than Ingram? Who's Boston's player that can match Kuzma's talent? Ball's too?
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
yes tatum is that much better than ingram.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
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Anyone else kinda paralyzed waiting for updates?

More paralyzed hoping that the Pels do not screw it up and cave before the deadline.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
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If we have a decent team we can sign a few smart pieces.

no chance...look at that resulting roster
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If we don’t, we can Hinkle it and use our cap space to gain assets via trades with tax teams

if thats the plan they need to wipe the slate clean, and start over
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
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and they'd all have to be waived to take the new players. not to mention, what are the pels going to do with all this "cap relief"??



i mean the team is going to suck regardless of whatever deal we take
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:04 pm to
people complained we were going to be too good for a true rebuild.

people complaining we are going to be too bad now for a rebuild.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
I don't know if the people that think the Lakers deal is ok are overrating Lakers players, or just don't understand what level of player we should want to get back in return.


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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

Among New Orleans' priorities in an Anthony Davis deal - young players/picks/cap relief - Pels are determined to get back one player w/ All-NBA potential. Do Pels see that in Ingram, Kuzma or Ball? Boston's Jayson Tatum fits mold. Can Pels pry Tatum? All internal Pels questions.


Here are the 3 All NBA teams from last year. You'll notice that almost all are true Max level players.

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FIRST TEAM

F: LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
C: Anthony Davis, New Orleans Pelicans
G: James Harden, Houston Rockets
G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

SECOND TEAM

F: LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio Spurs
F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
C: Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers
G: DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors
G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder

THIRD TEAM

F: Paul George, Oklahoma City Thunder
F: Jimmy Butler, Minnesota Timberwolves
C: Karl-Anthony Towns, Minnesota Timberwolves
G: Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
G: Victor Oladipo, Indiana Pacers

LINK

Where exactly do the Laker's players fit in on that list? They don't.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:09 pm to
Potential is the keyword. Ingram is 21. Settle down.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:09 pm to
how many of those players are 21 though?
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:11 pm to
I just feel like the lakers kids arent gonna invest into the organization and they’ll be like Eric Gordon during their stay here.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:11 pm to
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Potential is the keyword.

no doubt...
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Demps' counter should be: all of that, plus the other two firsts you can offer outright plus swaps on the other three.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Potential is the keyword. Ingram is 21. Settle down.

So you think just because he is 21, he has All-NBA potential? What has he done to indicate that is even a possiblity?
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Demps' counter should be: all of that, plus the other two firsts you can offer outright plus swaps on the other three.
And even then, tell the Lakers we'll revisit in the offseason.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
You can say that about maybe anybody they get
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
nobody said that bud.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
We get that, I would listen.

A “KG to the Nets” deal is appropriate here because it banks on the idea that AD is perpetually hurt and LeBron breaks down. Spending money on fixes only does so much for them without owning their firsts / draft position.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Where exactly do the Laker's players fit in on that list? They don't.




Look at the late bloomers though

you have guys like Oladipo and Jimmy butler

Giannis, Derozan & Paul George too on a smaller scale, when you look at their breakout year age in comparison to what Ball & Ingram are right now.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:17 pm to
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tatum really that much better than Ingram


Yes, as is Bostons Picks.

Also Kuzma has a bum hip.
Ball is trash and would never resign here.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:18 pm to
lets look at "cap relief"

without AD next year
jrue $26MM
hill $13MM
moore $8.6MM
okafor 1.7MM
frank 1.6MM

$51MM on a cap of $109MM and 10 open roster spots, most to be filled by the proceeds of the trade and the draft picks. why the frick do they need "cap relief", even with hill?
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