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re: Windhorst: Pels trying to get Willie into the room with KD
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:19 pm to saintsfan92612
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:19 pm to saintsfan92612
I don't see the pels giving up zion or ingram for durant.
Ingram definitely isn't getting traded.
Ingram definitely isn't getting traded.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 9:21 pm
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:22 pm to Chalkywhite84
AD would be so mad if we pulled this off
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:26 pm to cgrand
quote:
believe that the eventual deal will involve Mitchell, ayton, bridges, Johnson, Simmons and Durant and a ton of draft picks
I doubt they get all those players.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:20 pm to Chalkywhite84
Seems pretty crazy that people are debating whether Ingram should be traded for Kevin Durant 
I’m not banging the for Durant by any means, but the Pels are instantly the West favorite if he comes here
I’m not banging the for Durant by any means, but the Pels are instantly the West favorite if he comes here
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:02 pm to DBG
I don't think it's crazy.
Ingram is the leader of the team.
Obviously durant is elite but he is 34 yrs old and also could leave at a moments notice.
Ingram is the leader of the team.
Obviously durant is elite but he is 34 yrs old and also could leave at a moments notice.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 12:36 am to DBG
BI, Trey or Herb, and Daniels for KD.
For the next 2-3 years that would give us a lineup of:
1 - CJ / Jose
2- Herb
3- KD
4 - Zion
5 - Jonas
Bench
Jose
Kira
Naji
Liddell
Nance
It definitely thins out the bench, but we’d be like a big market team for the next few years in terms of attractiveness for free agents. Best 3 year run in Pels history for sure if 75% healthy.
Even with that said, it’s really hard to let go of that package, but the existing team won’t win it all in the next 3 years.
For the next 2-3 years that would give us a lineup of:
1 - CJ / Jose
2- Herb
3- KD
4 - Zion
5 - Jonas
Bench
Jose
Kira
Naji
Liddell
Nance
It definitely thins out the bench, but we’d be like a big market team for the next few years in terms of attractiveness for free agents. Best 3 year run in Pels history for sure if 75% healthy.
Even with that said, it’s really hard to let go of that package, but the existing team won’t win it all in the next 3 years.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:16 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:02 am to tibebecolston
Pels: KD
Nets: Kira/ Graham/ TM3/ Hayes/ Val, Temple, Naji, 5+ picks/ swaps
We can give them a starting 5 to keep for the next 5-10 years and also offer better valued picks than other teams.
CJ/ Jose
BI/Daniels
Herb/
KD/ Nance/ Liddell
Zion/ Billy
We would just need a center, backup SF, and another bench PG/SG. We would definitely be a destination for playable vet min guys. Can’t say this isn’t worth it if it’s possible with picks. We would be in contention for a while and would be ready to pay the tax. Still unlikely tho.
Nets: Kira/ Graham/ TM3/ Hayes/ Val, Temple, Naji, 5+ picks/ swaps
We can give them a starting 5 to keep for the next 5-10 years and also offer better valued picks than other teams.
CJ/ Jose
BI/Daniels
Herb/
KD/ Nance/ Liddell
Zion/ Billy
We would just need a center, backup SF, and another bench PG/SG. We would definitely be a destination for playable vet min guys. Can’t say this isn’t worth it if it’s possible with picks. We would be in contention for a while and would be ready to pay the tax. Still unlikely tho.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:20 am to Dantheman504
For example if you do that maybe we can get Dennis Schroder, Demarcus Cousins, Hassan Whiteside, on vet mins.
CJ/Jose/
BI/ Schroder
Herb/ Daniels/
KD/ Nance/ Liddell
Zion/ Cousins/ Whiteside/ Billy
Would still have 2 roster spots for vet min or rookies. It’s a solid team and would be worth the draft picks if we unload them.
CJ/Jose/
BI/ Schroder
Herb/ Daniels/
KD/ Nance/ Liddell
Zion/ Cousins/ Whiteside/ Billy
Would still have 2 roster spots for vet min or rookies. It’s a solid team and would be worth the draft picks if we unload them.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:23 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:22 am to Dantheman504
quote:I fail to see a starting 5 for the next 5-10 years there.
Nets: Kira/ Graham/ TM3/ Hayes/ Val, Temple, Naji, 5+ picks/ swaps
We can give them a starting 5 to keep for the next 5-10 years
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:27 am to shel311
Kira, TM3, and Hayes are pieces that can be kept and serviceable for 5+ years. In 5 years Graham will be 32 and Val 35. They could easily still be role players then. Who knows about Naji but he’s a good player to have on their bench. We could give them back an actual team and also 6+ picks of real value which would be the main point. This is obviously hypothetical and doesn’t have a high probability of actually happening.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:34 am to shel311
I’d give them 7 or 8 picks if it means we keep CJ, BI, Zion, Herb, Jose, Daniels, and add KD. This is the reason we have a war chest.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:39 am to shel311
2023 Lakers swap
2024 Bucks swap
2024 Pels pick
2024 Lakers pick
2026 Bucks swap
2026 Pels pick
2027 Bucks pick
2028 Pels pick
2029 Pels swap
2030 Pels pick
We would still have:
2023 Pels pick
2025 Pels pick
2027 Pels pick
2029 Pels/ Nets swap
Doesn’t even break the bank. Only 2 other teams could offer 6 picks and 4 swaps in a 7 year span and neither OKC or Hou would compete or can offer 5+ role players as well. Just saying it’s a good strategic long term move compared to taking 4 mediocre picks and 1 max contract player.
2024 Bucks swap
2024 Pels pick
2024 Lakers pick
2026 Bucks swap
2026 Pels pick
2027 Bucks pick
2028 Pels pick
2029 Pels swap
2030 Pels pick
We would still have:
2023 Pels pick
2025 Pels pick
2027 Pels pick
2029 Pels/ Nets swap
Doesn’t even break the bank. Only 2 other teams could offer 6 picks and 4 swaps in a 7 year span and neither OKC or Hou would compete or can offer 5+ role players as well. Just saying it’s a good strategic long term move compared to taking 4 mediocre picks and 1 max contract player.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 2:56 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:13 am to Bronc
If you wouldn't trade CJ and a couple picks for KD you're insane.
People on this board are so burned by AD and Zions big market dreams that they have overvalued what CJ brings to the table.
There's zero chance we could get KD for that price anyway, but some of yall need a reality check.
People on this board are so burned by AD and Zions big market dreams that they have overvalued what CJ brings to the table.
There's zero chance we could get KD for that price anyway, but some of yall need a reality check.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 3:16 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:16 am to SirWinston
quote:
If you wouldn't trade CJ and a couple picks for KD you're insane.
Even if you’re correct from a pure talent perspective, I would hope we wouldn’t do it out of principal…the man has come here and embraced the city and team like no one before him and for the first time since, I don’t even remember when, we are getting a positive outlook in the media and have team chemistry that is off the charts… and a big chunk of that is down to CJ
Posted on 7/3/22 at 6:28 am to England_Pelican
I’m not overly sentimental about pro sports. Everyone understands trades get made, stars move and things change. The real question here is do you believe KD will be better than BI over the next 4 years. Not the last 4; the next 4.
I have my doubts. Especially when you factor in team chemistry, injures and cost. Bottom line I don’t trust Durant to not come in and be a diva drama queen. Like he was in OKC, like he was in Golden State, like he is in Brooklyn.
I think he’s a declining asset with an attitude problem. I think Ingram is an ascending asset who is 100% bought in. Dance with the one that brung ya…
I have my doubts. Especially when you factor in team chemistry, injures and cost. Bottom line I don’t trust Durant to not come in and be a diva drama queen. Like he was in OKC, like he was in Golden State, like he is in Brooklyn.
I think he’s a declining asset with an attitude problem. I think Ingram is an ascending asset who is 100% bought in. Dance with the one that brung ya…
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:50 am to New City Champ
I do not think Durant will be better than Ingram the next four years
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:45 am to ghost2most
I’m ready for windhorst to go away
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:47 am to LesGeaux45
Hard pass. KD is a follower, was part of a disaster with the ultra talented Nets, and has only won a title when teamed with Steph.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:57 am to ghost2most
quote:
I do not think Durant will be better than Ingram the next four years
Did you think Ingram was better than Durant last year? Just trying to understand peoples opinion. I just don’t understand peoples low opinion of KD.
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