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Why Shouldn’t Willie be Fired?

Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:37 pm
Genuinely interested in hearing a reason why he should be retained for year 3.

His “offensive” philosophy is non-existent. We don’t run and gun, we aren’t a half court set play team, we don’t run motion and off ball screens, etc.

We give 0 effort on defense. We are constantly outscored in the paint. We give up a ton of offense rebounding. We are terribly at help side and get burned on corner 3’s.

For a “motivator” everyone seems to be moping around and uninterested. We come out flat most games, even early in the year when we were winning.

Willie seems to be a great guy, but he is a terrible coach in over his head. He has to go.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:40 pm to
He doesn’t say curse words?

That’s all I got
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2690 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:42 pm to
I never seen young players lose confidence so quick before.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
4384 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:43 pm to
If the motivator angle is gone he's got nothing to offer. I suspect he gets another year though.
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6884 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:43 pm to
He really is a nice guy
And terrible coach
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61514 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:46 pm to
1) Griff has a horrible track record hiring head coaches.
2) I think they might still be paying SVG, so I doubt they pay Willie to go away too when he has just one year left.
3) you guys always act like any change will be an improvement and it can’t get worse. See #1.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:47 pm to
Wish we could have got Quinn Snyder
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19265 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:47 pm to
Who would we get?seems like it’s a coaching carousel of bad coaches that all small market teams get. I like Willie especially how we ended last season and was playing early this season. I do think we need to get rid of BI and get another “ star” player that can finish. Also Willie had to deal with the injuries particularly Zion. We keep Zion because the franchise is making millions off his name. Hopefully he can come back healthy next season. I say give Willie one more year
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52617 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:49 pm to
I’d imagine Griff will be fired too hopefully
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:07 pm to
He’s going to get a ton of run for last year’s playoff run even after people realize the team ended up with a losing record.

Willie is simply not a good enough coach to handle this team. He’s made no adjustments to fit the talent and has run his players into the ground despite other options to reduce their load.

Reality is that they had a good run, but these last few weeks are basically back to where they were at the start of last year.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:14 pm to
He’s been outcoached for sure this calendar year.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3673 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Who would we get?seems like it’s a coaching carousel of bad coaches that all small market teams get.


Ime Udoka's redemption arch begins in New Orleans
Posted by Tom Emanski Swagger
Akron
Member since Jul 2012
237 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:41 pm to
Uncle Al would be an upgrade.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8846 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

Wish we could have got Quinn Snyder


Said the same on here when he was jet go.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2690 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:41 pm to
I want Atkinson but not sure if he wants to leave GS. I know he didn’t want to leave for Charlotte
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
1844 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 12:12 am to
Game turned on the BI strip and 3. Just can not be that nonchalant with the ball in crunch time. That’s not on Coach Green, but being so stubborn making the game needlessly close is. Coach Green continues to double down on full time small ball with Val/Nance at the pivot with the same results. Pels got out rebounded by near 20!



Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2690 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:02 am to
What are we paying for Mike Dantoni for? We also need a vet coach as an assistant to teach Willie what he is doing wrong.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1232 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:13 am to
Yes its time for Willie and griffin to go
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8739 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:48 am to
If Willie should be fired, Zion should be traded.

Tired of that fat sac not playing
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:56 am to
quote:

We also need a vet coach as an assistant to teach Willie what he is doing wrong.


I agree

Big problem is, well, Griff

What well respected vet coach wants to come play for micromanaging Griff? We have Willie not because he was our first choice, but because coach after coach backed away from our offers or interest. Griff has earned a reputation as a micromanager and someone that will preach family as he is driving the bus over your corpse. If I’m a respected vet coach why do I want to come be the next man up for a guy like Griff? On a team that can’t seem to stay healthy, a GM that can’t seem to balance a roster, and if the team struggles I’d be the desired fall guy to save the GM?

I think we are starting to see the path dependencies of bad GM decisions from years past piling up.

Honestly, I think it Gayle has any sort of actual savvy, at most we get one more season due to the injuries and if this team is not in the second round, Griff AND Willie need to go. And the next GM gets a blank slate.
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 8:57 am
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