re: Who we picking at 8?

Thought Sharpe was taller, but his wingspan and reach are very strong

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What was Herb's wingspan? I know its something ridiculous.

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Team
Alabama
Year
Senior
Position
Small Forward
Height
6'7.25" (7'0.25" wingspan)
Weight
206 lbs

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Win shares can be severely impacted by the quality of your team. I don’t believe for a second that if Cade and Jose swapped spots, Cade would still be a -.011 and Jose a .121.

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All of the catchall metrics are flawed, but the point of using WS/48 is that Jose had more impact on winning than most rookies. I said many times during the season that part of the secret to his success was doing it in a bench role. So if you asked him to carry the Pistons then his WS/48 is probably lower than Cade's. But I don't think it's a given that a more talented rookie with a much higher ceiling than Jose could beat him out in the first half of the season.

That is what Teddy is arguing, if whoever we pick out at 8 can't beat out Jose by January then he's a bust. If we draft a point guard then maybe that's true. If we draft a wing, I think it will be harder for them to beat out Trey and Nance and Graham and Jaxson if they're still on the team. And not beating out those guys wouldn't make the rookie a bust. Not beating out Naji by the end of the year might. But I really don't expect Naji to get many minutes anyway if the team is healthy.

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Not on Pels radar but in general, Williams is going to be a starter in this league

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I agree. That size is ridiculous

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That is what Teddy is arguing, if whoever we pick out at 8 can't beat out Jose by January then he's a bust.

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that's not what i'm argueing specifically. But yes if we drafted a PG that was better than Jose, then he'd take his minutes, but i don't expect to draft a PG, it's highly likely to be a SG/SF.

Who is the backup SG behind BI?
Is Trey backing up Herb at the 3, or is he going to be more of a 4?

There's plenty of minutes to be give at the 2/3 position currently just in a backup role. Naji is not going to get those minutes over a more deserving #8 pick, and neither will Kira.

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Who is the backup SG behind BI?

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That's where things with Jose get interesting to me. I think the backup PG is going to be Zion. How does that affect Jose and his impact? GTA was such a large part of this team's identity it's hard to imagine him getting benched for a 3&D wing, but does a 3&D wing fit better with Point Zion?

I think the window for the rookie to step up is post trade deadline, but if 3&D fits better than Jose, then they should be able to draft someone that can take at least some of Jose's minutes.

This year I've done zero "scouting"/in-depth research and I don't plan on it. Every years draft thread or prospect threads, the board has 20 players that could be stars *Six names were mentioned on who we should pick on the 1st page of this thread alone . I'm not going to act like I know a lot about these kids, there are only a couple hits each year and teams don't even know who the hell to pick, much less me.

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Kansas's Ochai Agbaji official measurements from the NBA Combine: 6'5.75 in shoes, 6'10.25 wingspan, 8'8 standing reach, 216.8 lbs with 5.4% body fat

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I’m ready to take a bet that this is our pick. Griff recently said that he believes teams are going to start looking into older players who showed consistent improvement in college and won personal accolades. Here you have a guy who consistently improved while winning a ton of a awards and a national championship. Also helps that he is one of the best shooters in the entire class. Checks a ton of boxes.

I don't expect to draft someone who would impact Jose's minutes.

As i said, maybe CJ plays a few less minutes. 35mpg is a lot and he shouldn't have to do that, but i expect Jose to be the one to eat into those a little more.


I don't expect Jax to be on the team quite honestly, and even if he is, i don't think he'll play much. I think Trey will be the backup 4, with Nance as the backup 5. If that actually happens, then there are plenty of minutes available to be taken at the backup 2 and 3 spots. DG/Kira and Naji would take them now, but it shouldn't be hard for a decent pick to take bulk minutes there over those 3, and it also wouldn't be hard for a PF/C to get minutes on this team either, b/c then maybe Trey plays the 3 more and the rookie takes the backup 4/5 role with Nance instead of Jax.