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re: What's your dream offseason?

Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:34 pm to
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I mean tax player MLE above tax or something like that.


Yeah, I'd like to add a 25 MPG "starting" SG like Nick Young or Belinelli with the taxpayer MLE and let Moore and Rondo come off the bench. Unfortunately Young and Belinelli may well stay with the teams they are currently with and there aren't many other options with such a thin market. You probably have to look at a trade to get both Moore and Rondo out of the starting lineup.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:51 pm to
I agree my short list in FA for a combo guard is Iman Shumpert (if he opts out), Vince Carter, David Nwaba, Jeramy Grant, and Kyle Anderson

Other than Nick Young and Belly that’s about it. But again if we were to trade Etwaun for an upgrade, I want to make sure it’s a true upgrade.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Other than Nick Young and Belly that’s about it. But again if we were to trade Etwaun for an upgrade, I want to make sure it’s a true upgrade.


I'm not sure you can though. An upgrade that isn't a star would be someone like Fournier who's still pretty expensive. He makes $17 million, I have to think Moore + MLE + 1st + $3-$4 million in cap/tax space is a better use of money and assets than just Fournier.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:17 pm to
Why do you want to get Rondo out of the starting lineup?

I agree Moore needs to be the backup SG, but having Solo makes that happen.

Like i said before, Van Vleet would be a great get this offseason. I honestly don't think we need anything more at the SG or SF position. Just find a vet minimum guy to be the 5th guy after Jrue/Solo/Moore/Miller. That guy could be Clark. Hoping Frank can give minutes there too.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:29 pm to
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Why do you want to get Rondo out of the starting lineup?


The stats were screaming that Rondo + Boogie was a really bad combo. I do think Boogie was starting to buy in and play within the system more. Maybe if he you got Good Boogie all the time the combo wouldn't be so bad. But until they prove it, you need to separate them.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Rondo + Boogie was a really bad combo.


Rondo + Boogie -6 Net

Rondo + Davis is a -3 Net on the season and a -3 Net since Cousins went out. that's with a +6.5 during this streak
This post was edited on 3/2/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:50 pm to
Well just looking at Rondo regardless of who's on the court with him, it's usually not good.

I still think he should be the starter, and he should be the one taking the ball out of bounds to end games. Just in the last game you see him not throw it to AD and yell at him after explaining to him you can't run to the half court line and stop before it. Keep going into the backcourt, not going to throw you the ball before it so you can get trapped, or fall out of bounds or backcourt. it's little things like that is why he should stay on this team next year.

Rondo can start, and hopefully we can get a guy like Dinwiddie or Van Vleet that can play the majority of the minutes at the position and learn from him.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48919 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 2:21 pm to
if we get the moore we saw against SA, his 8MM is a bargain. remember he's guarding players with a significant size advantage on him

hopefully hill can relieve him of that
Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 2:26 pm to
If Solo will come back healthy - it might be the best acquisition.

The rest depends on Benson. Still dont see how this team may remain good (intact.sans Ajinca) without going into tax.

So right now this team is playing for the future.
So first lets hope for PO and then think about seedings.

Benson and Loomis might accept that tax is necessary...
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 2:30 pm to
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Rondo can start,


if you agree that it is usually not good when he's on the court, why would the Pels continue to start him?


they definitely need other options- i doubt they can sign Dinwiddie or Van Fleet; but they need to be looking for their own version of those 2 guys.

i do think Rondo is playing better, largely because he's busting his arse on a more regular basis. and i hate turning to "not trying" as a thing for players.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 2:38 pm to
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I'm not sure you can though. An upgrade that isn't a star would be someone like Fournier who's still pretty expensive


Agreed which is why I think my ‘realistic dream’ is depth (my other point was that I didn’t want to trade Moore for one other player; I’d only trade him for depth or an obvious upgrade at the position). I think the 2 holes for us are perimeter defense (hopefully fixed with the return of Solo) and a front court running mate for Jrue (Moore and Frank Jackson are the only 2 candidates for next year).

The options I see for guard depth is by going into the tax or using Moore or Mirotic (will have one year left) to get 2 serviceable front court players. Which is so damn tough for me to say because I really think those two have been amazing for us and are key cogs on this team. But the question is, how much do we value depth? Do we have any other options to improve the roster? Do we think Jrue can sustain 38 mpg?
This post was edited on 3/2/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 2:45 pm to
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if you agree that it is usually not good when he's on the court, why would the Pels continue to start him?


why does it matter who starts? if he only plays 15-20 mpg, does it matter if he plays with the starters or the bench players? put him with whoever he will do the best with.
His minutes will go down when Solo comes back. If we get a competent backup PG next year, Rondo will probably will play 15 minutes a night.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 3:09 pm to
who he is playing against matters

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 3:38 pm to
yes it does.
I do'nt care if he starts or not, but i want him on the team next year, and i dont' want him playing that much.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:51 pm to
There is a trade to be made with E'Twaun Moore and Dario Saric if things break a certain way IMO.

If Philly gets another solid wing and/or loses JJ, Moore would be a perfect guy for how that team is built. Pels put Saric at the 3 and he could move to the 4 at times, and he is another ball handler to have on the floor when you have Jrue at "Point Guard"
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:58 pm to
How’s Saric doing this year? I honestly have no idea. I could just go to Basketball Reference but I would rather just be told
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:31 pm to
Explain that logic to me. Sure he’s a ball handler but we have a ton of minutes already locked up at the 4 and between Solo and Miller I feel like the 3 is fairly covered

As a singular move, I just don’t feel like it’s smart
Posted by irvchilichill1
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
720 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 9:49 am to
My dream off-season is simply having the same team comeback next year with everyone remaining healthy.

Resign Boogie, Rondo and Oakafor, try to dump Ajinca's contract with a 2nd rounder in the draft, use the MLE to sign a decent, defending PG/backup big and come into the season, ready to compete for a chip.

I believe a healthy Pels team, assuming the expected roster, is a serious contender to challenge GS for the championship.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 11:14 am to
Miller will cost money soon, and Solo has never been an answer for me. I am looking beyond next season and just imagining my core is: Jrue, AD, Boogie

If that's the case, give me a big ball handler with a lot of upside. That front court would be massive, but skilled enough to play Big small ball.

Saric allows you to not have to seek out a Rondo type moving forward. With those 4, you just need a shooter who is a solid defender and that lineup is dangerous.

I look to attach Nico to Solomon and get a couple of pieces to out around those 4 in my dream offseason
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48919 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 11:20 am to
they'd get roasted if they traded mirotic right after burning a first on him...not that it's impossible but that would be bold
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