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re: What is BI's real trade value?

Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31066 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:52 pm to
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Why does every hate Ingram so much


You seen him play? You see him try to close out a game? You see him in the playoffs?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5571 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:09 pm to
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They need to consolidate.


Agree. I actually am fine letting the string play out on this season and just seeing where this group goes, but any pelicans trade should be a consolidation.

It will be really interesting if the lakers get knocked out in the playin or just miss it. I think you defer the laker pick till next year unless by some miracle it’s in the top 5 and you think you could be a getting an elite talent.

This team really doesn’t need another rookie off the bench next year.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27375 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:23 pm to
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You seen him play? You see him try to close out a game? You see him in the playoffs?
ive seen him play.
Agreed he isnt the best closer.
In playoffs, BI averages 27ppg ..40.7 3pt% ..6rbs..6asst


Perm, you’re gonna need a better argument here partner



Edit: i think most are mad that he stumbles as our #1 aka our closer (which is fair), but BI is a top 30-40 NBA player.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Patfic15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
4224 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:44 pm to
BI is perfect for a team aiming for the play in. He's not a 1...isn't alpha enough to even be a 2.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55926 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:24 pm to
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Detroit isn’t given up picks for a guy like Ingram. The only picks you are getting back for Ingram are picks from a team expecting to go deep in the playoffs.
so wrong on this. Detroit is tired of being bad. They gave Monty a huge contract to win now. They would definitely consider a trade like this


We’d get at worst 2 picks and a young player
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 10:27 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Trade Nance, Marshall, Daniels, and four first for Markkanen
You mean offer, not trade, and Ainge laughs at Griff
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5571 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:16 pm to
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so wrong on this. Detroit is tired of being bad. They gave Monty a huge contract to win now. They would definitely consider a trade like this We’d get at worst 2 picks and a young player


For Brandon Ingram? A 4 win team is trading multiple picks for Brandon Ingram?

Those picks would be heavily protected or way out on the future. If they aren’t, we should make that trade yesterday.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43021 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:42 am to
To be fair for Ingram id be asking for Ivey Duren and Bogo. No picks.

Also its the only way the money works out without taking someone like Burks and then Bogo is an amazing expiring next year that we could get another piece for.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8012 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:46 am to
Stop with the trade BI bullshite already. he’s playing his best all around basketball in his career. He might sacrifice a few points but he’s rebounding, passing and playing D at a high level. He’s actually a formidable shot blocker with his wingspan. He’s also not getting the foul calls he should. He takes the ball to the rim a lot and gets whacked but rarely gets the call while so many other players flop if you breathe on them and get the whistle. Same with Zion. He needs to play angry more. When Z is mad he plays with a different level of energy and we need that from him as well as be more selfish with the ball. He should average 8-10 free throw attempts a game.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:14 pm to
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He’s actually a formidable shot blocker with his wingspan

Someone averaging less than a half a block per game is not a formidable shot blocker
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
CJ averages twice as many blocks per game as BI

BI's blocks have also trended downward for his career, getting slightly worse over the years.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2298 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Stop with the trade BI bullshite already.


For sure, I hear you. It's too bad, but you really can't have a rational conversation with a few folks on this board who are stuck in their fantasies. The team shoots 10-42 from 3, Booker goes nuclear, while BI is three rebounds short of a consecutive triple Dub = Gotta get rid of BI so Zion can shine. They've had the same agenda for years.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43021 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Stop with the trade BI bullshite already.


No and when we pay him 40+ million a year you can thank that moment as the time where the Pelicans started leaving New Orleans.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Stop with the trade BI bullshite already. he’s playing his best all around basketball in his career. He might sacrifice a few points but he’s rebounding, passing and playing D at a high level.


Ok lets accept that. Despite all this, he probably won’t make the all-star game, all-nba team or be in MVP consideration. I think this poster has made a great argument to trade him now. Even at his best season- BI doesn’t deserve 40 plus million.

Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:08 pm to
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CJ averages twice as many blocks per game as BI BI's blocks have also trended downward for his career, getting slightly worse over the years.

Hell the smallest guy on the team in Jose averages the same amount of blocks and plays half the minutes.

I guess Jose is a formidable shot blocker also.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

For sure, I hear you. It's too bad, but you really can't have a rational conversation with a few folks on this board who are stuck in their fantasies. The team shoots 10-42 from 3, Booker goes nuclear, while BI is three rebounds short of a consecutive triple Dub = Gotta get rid of BI so Zion can shine. They've had the same agenda for years.
Thinking it's irrational to not want to give BI his next max

Some of you folks are guilty of the exact thing you're blaming others for.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:48 pm to
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Hell the smallest guy on the team in Jose averages the same amount of blocks and plays half the minutes.

I guess Jose is a formidable shot blocker also
These dudes are talking about fantasies and whatever else while bagging on other posters while also saying shite like BI is a formidable shot blocker
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:50 pm to
Dude, BI Stans are the absolute worst.

They’re becoming worse than Lonzo Stans.

Those BI stans may be a large part of the reason I want to trade him so they can go away
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
4199 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:16 pm to
3 reasons to trade BI:

1. He's about to make $40 Million +

2. He's a ball stopper. We play with better ball movement when he's not on the court.

3. He's not a clutch player in the 4th under 5 minutes. Missed shots, turnovers, tunnel vision, etc.

50 Tiger is right. If we pay BI a max we are fricked.
The main problem is David Griffin sleeps in BI PJ's. He is not trading him so we are fricked.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2298 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:30 pm to
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Thinking it's irrational to not want to give BI his next max


Actually, I think any max contact is a worthy discussion, not my point. Its the irrationals that a) have a narrative that they illogically use to pin things on when the team falls short and b) don’t believe you can have two players on the Pels succeed at a high level over the course of a season.

I told you last year, you’re better than that. For the rest, it’s like I said … no point in trying to have a rational basketball discussion.

This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 5:31 pm
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