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Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:09 pm to VA LSU fan
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They need to consolidate.
Agree. I actually am fine letting the string play out on this season and just seeing where this group goes, but any pelicans trade should be a consolidation.
It will be really interesting if the lakers get knocked out in the playin or just miss it. I think you defer the laker pick till next year unless by some miracle it’s in the top 5 and you think you could be a getting an elite talent.
This team really doesn’t need another rookie off the bench next year.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:23 pm to BigPerm30
quote:ive seen him play.
You seen him play? You see him try to close out a game? You see him in the playoffs?
Agreed he isnt the best closer.
In playoffs, BI averages 27ppg ..40.7 3pt% ..6rbs..6asst
Perm, you’re gonna need a better argument here partner
Edit: i think most are mad that he stumbles as our #1 aka our closer (which is fair), but BI is a top 30-40 NBA player.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:44 pm to Ryan3232
BI is perfect for a team aiming for the play in. He's not a 1...isn't alpha enough to even be a 2.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:24 pm to ned nederlander
quote:so wrong on this. Detroit is tired of being bad. They gave Monty a huge contract to win now. They would definitely consider a trade like this
Detroit isn’t given up picks for a guy like Ingram. The only picks you are getting back for Ingram are picks from a team expecting to go deep in the playoffs.
We’d get at worst 2 picks and a young player
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:33 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:You mean offer, not trade, and Ainge laughs at Griff
Trade Nance, Marshall, Daniels, and four first for Markkanen
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:16 pm to Macintosh
quote:
so wrong on this. Detroit is tired of being bad. They gave Monty a huge contract to win now. They would definitely consider a trade like this We’d get at worst 2 picks and a young player
For Brandon Ingram? A 4 win team is trading multiple picks for Brandon Ingram?
Those picks would be heavily protected or way out on the future. If they aren’t, we should make that trade yesterday.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:42 am to ned nederlander
To be fair for Ingram id be asking for Ivey Duren and Bogo. No picks.
Also its the only way the money works out without taking someone like Burks and then Bogo is an amazing expiring next year that we could get another piece for.
Also its the only way the money works out without taking someone like Burks and then Bogo is an amazing expiring next year that we could get another piece for.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 8:43 am
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:46 am to ghost2most
Stop with the trade BI bullshite already. he’s playing his best all around basketball in his career. He might sacrifice a few points but he’s rebounding, passing and playing D at a high level. He’s actually a formidable shot blocker with his wingspan. He’s also not getting the foul calls he should. He takes the ball to the rim a lot and gets whacked but rarely gets the call while so many other players flop if you breathe on them and get the whistle. Same with Zion. He needs to play angry more. When Z is mad he plays with a different level of energy and we need that from him as well as be more selfish with the ball. He should average 8-10 free throw attempts a game.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:14 pm to LSUPilot07
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He’s actually a formidable shot blocker with his wingspan
Someone averaging less than a half a block per game is not a formidable shot blocker
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:26 pm to Soggymoss
CJ averages twice as many blocks per game as BI
BI's blocks have also trended downward for his career, getting slightly worse over the years.
BI's blocks have also trended downward for his career, getting slightly worse over the years.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:44 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:
Stop with the trade BI bullshite already.
For sure, I hear you. It's too bad, but you really can't have a rational conversation with a few folks on this board who are stuck in their fantasies. The team shoots 10-42 from 3, Booker goes nuclear, while BI is three rebounds short of a consecutive triple Dub = Gotta get rid of BI so Zion can shine. They've had the same agenda for years.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:48 pm to LSUPilot07
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Stop with the trade BI bullshite already.
No and when we pay him 40+ million a year you can thank that moment as the time where the Pelicans started leaving New Orleans.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:52 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:
Stop with the trade BI bullshite already. he’s playing his best all around basketball in his career. He might sacrifice a few points but he’s rebounding, passing and playing D at a high level.
Ok lets accept that. Despite all this, he probably won’t make the all-star game, all-nba team or be in MVP consideration. I think this poster has made a great argument to trade him now. Even at his best season- BI doesn’t deserve 40 plus million.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:08 pm to shel311
quote:
CJ averages twice as many blocks per game as BI BI's blocks have also trended downward for his career, getting slightly worse over the years.
Hell the smallest guy on the team in Jose averages the same amount of blocks and plays half the minutes.
I guess Jose is a formidable shot blocker also.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:47 pm to Pistol44
quote:Thinking it's irrational to not want to give BI his next max
For sure, I hear you. It's too bad, but you really can't have a rational conversation with a few folks on this board who are stuck in their fantasies. The team shoots 10-42 from 3, Booker goes nuclear, while BI is three rebounds short of a consecutive triple Dub = Gotta get rid of BI so Zion can shine. They've had the same agenda for years.
Some of you folks are guilty of the exact thing you're blaming others for.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:48 pm to Soggymoss
quote:These dudes are talking about fantasies and whatever else while bagging on other posters while also saying shite like BI is a formidable shot blocker
Hell the smallest guy on the team in Jose averages the same amount of blocks and plays half the minutes.
I guess Jose is a formidable shot blocker also
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:50 pm to shel311
Dude, BI Stans are the absolute worst.
They’re becoming worse than Lonzo Stans.
Those BI stans may be a large part of the reason I want to trade him so they can go away
They’re becoming worse than Lonzo Stans.
Those BI stans may be a large part of the reason I want to trade him so they can go away
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:16 pm to Soggymoss
3 reasons to trade BI:
1. He's about to make $40 Million +
2. He's a ball stopper. We play with better ball movement when he's not on the court.
3. He's not a clutch player in the 4th under 5 minutes. Missed shots, turnovers, tunnel vision, etc.
50 Tiger is right. If we pay BI a max we are fricked.
The main problem is David Griffin sleeps in BI PJ's. He is not trading him so we are fricked.
1. He's about to make $40 Million +
2. He's a ball stopper. We play with better ball movement when he's not on the court.
3. He's not a clutch player in the 4th under 5 minutes. Missed shots, turnovers, tunnel vision, etc.
50 Tiger is right. If we pay BI a max we are fricked.
The main problem is David Griffin sleeps in BI PJ's. He is not trading him so we are fricked.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:30 pm to shel311
quote:
Thinking it's irrational to not want to give BI his next max
Actually, I think any max contact is a worthy discussion, not my point. Its the irrationals that a) have a narrative that they illogically use to pin things on when the team falls short and b) don’t believe you can have two players on the Pels succeed at a high level over the course of a season.
I told you last year, you’re better than that. For the rest, it’s like I said … no point in trying to have a rational basketball discussion.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 5:31 pm
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