1
- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: What do you see as a "successful" year? On the flip, what would make you question the FO?
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:58 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:58 am to Fun Bunch
Under 40 wins and little improvement from our new players would make me question the FO.
Success for me is based more on Fears/ Queen/ Mathurin/ Bey and less on Z/ Herb/ Trey.
It would be silly to measure failure based on Z/ Herb/ Trey as they were already part of a failed past time, have nothing to do with current FO moves, and have proven that none are true leaders/ closers/ clutch players up to now.
This is why I'm pretty stoked for the season. Happy to see Fears/ Murray/ Queen/ Bey/ Mathurin and view anything from Trey/ Z/ Herb/ Missi as a bonus.
If either of Trey/ Z actually live up to the hype along with getting a prime Murray back then we are in a very good position for the future.
Success for me is based more on Fears/ Queen/ Mathurin/ Bey and less on Z/ Herb/ Trey.
It would be silly to measure failure based on Z/ Herb/ Trey as they were already part of a failed past time, have nothing to do with current FO moves, and have proven that none are true leaders/ closers/ clutch players up to now.
This is why I'm pretty stoked for the season. Happy to see Fears/ Murray/ Queen/ Bey/ Mathurin and view anything from Trey/ Z/ Herb/ Missi as a bonus.
If either of Trey/ Z actually live up to the hype along with getting a prime Murray back then we are in a very good position for the future.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:31 am to Dantheman504
Yes, if our record improves, it will be because Fears and Queen improved. Since the roster essentially didn't change, anyone expecting improvement is really just expecting our two sophomore players to make a leap.
I certainly do hope they make that leap.
I certainly do hope they make that leap.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:07 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
what would make you question the FO?
better question is what would make me trust the FO
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:16 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
Since the roster essentially didn't change, anyone expecting improvement is really just expecting our two sophomore players to make a leap.
That's underselling it a bit. You should expect team improvement regardless of those 2 guys.
Murray is a high end starter who makes others better and Mathurin is a potential 6th man level player. That's not essentially nothing. You are talking about going from Hawk/ Jose to Murray/ Mathurin and calling it nothing.
You have Bey/ Fears who dropped 40pt games in a new system with unfamiliar teammates/ chemistry.
I'd hope the roster didn't change much if we added (4) of our Top 7 players and (5) of our Top 9 within the last year.
Would still be nice to get a starting center, that's really the only missing piece.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 2:31 pm to Fun Bunch
A successful season to me is seeing Fears and Queen get better, and we get rid of Zion. I'd also like to see the defense of the team improve dramatically, which imo coincides with getting rid of Zion.
As far as wins go, i really don't care that much. I'd rather be picking in the top 10 in the draft, but i'll never not want to win. This team, even without fatass on the team, is talented enough to win 40 games. So i don't see anything being unsuccessful as far as wins go b/c not winning with Zion (b/c i doubt this idiot trades him) means there's no way you can keep him around next year, and we'd get a high draft pick.
The only scenario i would be upset about this season is if Fears and/or DQ aren't getting sufficient playing time in the right roles b/c of guys like Zion and Murray getting in their way.
As far as wins go, i really don't care that much. I'd rather be picking in the top 10 in the draft, but i'll never not want to win. This team, even without fatass on the team, is talented enough to win 40 games. So i don't see anything being unsuccessful as far as wins go b/c not winning with Zion (b/c i doubt this idiot trades him) means there's no way you can keep him around next year, and we'd get a high draft pick.
The only scenario i would be upset about this season is if Fears and/or DQ aren't getting sufficient playing time in the right roles b/c of guys like Zion and Murray getting in their way.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 3:44 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
Murray is a high end starter who makes others better
This is just not true.
He's a middle-tier starter that his previous teams couldn't figure out what to do with.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 4:00 pm to Broski
quote:
This is just not true.
He's a middle-tier starter that his previous teams couldn't figure out what to do with.
Surely you aren't letting your recency bias impact your overall view of Dejounte..
Can you give me your honest opinion of what "middle-tier starter" has been traded for (5) 1sts, a swap, and a lottery pick?
SAS traded Murray to maximize his value because he was an all star level player averaging 21pts/ 9reb/ 8ast and was seen as the exact opposite of whatever you just fabricated.
Just because the Hawks decided it was smart to pair 2 PGs who don't work together and then he tore his achilles doesn't just diminish him to a random mid NBA player.
SAS knew exactly what to do with Murray but were rebuilding so they traded him at high value.The Hawks traded every player on their roster including their #1 pick. Not a single player on their team is still there but yeah they didn't know what to do with just Murray, had nothing to do with the poverty franchise or dumb roster building.
Google would say you are wrong as well:
quote:
Dejounte Murray is generally not considered a "mid" player by NBA standards, but he is often viewed as a fringe All-Star or high-tier starting guard rather than a true elite superstar.
quote:
He is a former NBA All-Star, has led the league in steals, and has multiple seasons averaging over 20 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists per game. That production is well above average.
So is it recency bias or is it because he is an NBA player for the Pelicans? I'm sure if he was on any of the remaining 29 NBA teams he'd be viewed higher.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 10/1/26 at 6:39 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
Google would say you are wrong as well:
Posted on 10/1/26 at 7:57 pm to Fun Bunch
6 seed or bust
Although the honest answer long term is probably to blow it up and fire everybody
But as far as being a fan and hoping for fun, good things in the short term - playoffs.
Although the honest answer long term is probably to blow it up and fire everybody
But as far as being a fan and hoping for fun, good things in the short term - playoffs.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 7:47 pm to Dantheman504
quote:In 517 games and over 15k minutes, Dejounte Murray's career On-Off is 0.0.
Murray is a high end starter who makes others better
Posted on 10/3/26 at 7:48 pm to Broski
quote:9 years, he hasn't been a difference maker.
This is just not true.
He's a middle-tier starter that his previous teams couldn't figure out what to do with.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 9:47 am to shel311
quote:
9 years, he hasn't been a difference maker.
What does this mean? He was on the worst SAS squad in the last 30 years, dogshit Hawks team, then tore his achilles. Are you saying that Bam/ KD are also middle tier due to not making a difference? KD hopped on the GSW squad and Bam has never won a championship. Middle tier players?
Posted on 10/6/26 at 10:15 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Career 0.0 Net Rating
What does this mean? He was on the worst SAS squad in the last 30 years, dogshit Hawks team
quote:KD & Bam... Not career 0.0 Net Rating guys.
Are you saying that Bam/ KD are also middle tier due to not making a difference?
Bam has been positive of 8 seasons since his rookie year. KD 14 of 17 since his rookie year.
Dejounte Murray of 8 seasons since his rookie year.
Page 3 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News