re: What do we do with our treasure chest?

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0000000% think Ayton is a thought on the table but I still believe this team stays untouched this year

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Same as Bam, CJ would have to go out in that deal.

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Eh not neccessarily

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Sure, in the literal sense it could be done but why would we want to trade all this depth for Ayton and no depth? It would involve not extending any young players and trading guys to ensure we have more min and small contracts to make it work.

We're not going to be a perennial tax paying team, no chance.

And having 4 players making over $30 mil would essentially guarantee that.


If you make that deal, you may as well add Herb and Trey and less picks since you'd be committing to them not being on the team for a 2nd contract.

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I dont think Herb is going to be as expensive at this point. If someone is willing to give him a lot of money you got to let him go.

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Doubt any team that's NOT a serious playoff contender would be interested in paying Herb the big bucks. He's not the type player you go out of your way to get, unless his type is what you really need, to put you over the top come playoff time, and especially if you have an offensive system, where Herb doesn't hurt you very much, assuming he ends up stuck below 30% on 3s of course.

Most think there are about 4 different options on how you try and figure out the best way to "use" a limited type player as Herb. We are in phase one...the best option if it works. If it doesn't work, you then move to #2 etc...each level being a bit less advantageous than the previous.

I assume, by the amount of time & effort that the Pels have already put in on Herb, that WG & company think he is going to be worth the effort. In other words, they think Herb is, at least, one of the top 5 wing defenders in the NBA (if not the best) If Herb turns out to be just a very good defender...I'm not sure I see the Pels sticking with him, if somebody comes along with the need (& money) to sign him. JMO

I admit...I'm pretty much in the dark when it comes to money matters in the NBA. I just think there will probably be some teams that might find a "Herb" to be quite a bit more valuable given their current situation, than the Pels will...and it would be totally understandable why the Pels might feel this way...and move him.

Who knows, maybe Herb will suddenly start shooting 40% from 3 & we can all look back & laugh at this discussion. (Edit: I would settle for 35%)

Thanks...I understood about half of that. Now, I consider myself to be one those MOST dangerous people. The guy that knows juuuuust enough...to make a bad decision

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JV, DG, Jaxson, 3 1st..... Does that get us Bam?Swap Dyson and Trey for 2 of the above and that's in the range of what it would take to get Bam.

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That would be an incredible overpay for Bam, who can’t shoot.

Yeah I don’t get the infatuation with Bam

He also got torched by AD in the bubble

He’s honestly one of my least favorite players in the NBA bc he has hype, but when it’s time to show up, he folds.

He honestly plays a lot like Larry Nance, but has higher usage, and makes 5 times more money.

I’m not trading 2 decent players, 2 of Herb, Trey, and Dyson, and 3 first rd picks for that

That would be horrific.

You keep the team intact this year. But going into offseason, decide if Hayes is worth it or not.

I think it's decided we need a dependable shooter and a truly solid option for back up center

Probably true, but wouldn’t you agree that would be more counterproductive than good?

Trading 3-5 players (all of whom are assets in different ways), plus 3 firsts, for a Max contract guy who helps defensively most nights, but still can’t actually guard the truly elite bigs or wings and also can’t shoot?

Your price might be right, but I’d rather just try to draft and develop a Bam type player than trade a billion assets for actual Bam and pay the luxury tax.

Zion is 22 and Ingram is 25. If they were PG13 and Kawhi’s age, I’d be more on board to move all in.

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It's infinitely closer to what an actual deal would look like than JV/DG/Jax

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No it’s not infinitely closer, because that would be an overpay. The Heat are declining, because Bam hasn’t reached his ceiling, because he can’t shoot.