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re: Trade the #10 for Brandon Jennings?
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:27 pm to BehindtheWoodshed
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:27 pm to BehindtheWoodshed
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Who do u guys think is a perfect fit at guard to play with EG?
This is why I'm kinda skeptical on drafting Lillard. A passive point guard with shots when we need it is ideal when your superstar right now is a guard also.
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:29 pm to corndeaux
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With the contracts going out, there has to be a player involved. Especially if Okafor is moved.
well, I really think this rumor involves Ariza much more so than it does Okafor. I don't think many GM's want anything to do with Okafors contract.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:32 pm to corndeaux
That fricking sucks. Why not just amnesty Oak or Ariza and not spend the money? The 10th pick is cheap labor. Unless they're fixing to amnesty one, deal the other and go crazy in FA, but I doubt it.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:36 pm to aswemajor
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This is why I'm kinda skeptical on drafting Lillard. A passive point guard with shots when we need it is ideal when your superstar right now is a guard also.
the team needs more offense right now though...Gordon is great. Jack is a good scorer. We don't know what we're gonna get out of AD offensively. Need to get a player that we think can give us some significant offense
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:39 pm to drake20
quote:belli
Need to get a player that we think can give us some significant offense
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:41 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Trade the #10 for Brandon Jennings?
OH YEAH!
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:56 pm to THRILLHO
quote:Im sure its pretty tough for Demps to sell Benson on paying Okafor $30 million to go away
That fricking sucks. Why not just amnesty Oak or Ariza and not spend the money? The 10th pick is cheap labor. Unless they're fixing to amnesty one, deal the other and go crazy in FA, but I doubt it.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:58 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Trade the #10 for Brandon Jennings?
If Bucks dont think they could re-sign Jennings in two years,
I don't think I would, I don't trust him. He's a LA kid that supposedly wants to play for a big market. He's a good scorer but his assist numbers aren't great(5ppg). I'd rather keep the pick and build that way..
Posted on 6/6/12 at 7:59 pm to eyeran
I thought the owner only pays the difference between the original deal and the new one the player signs elsewhere.
But my problem is that, unless they plan on making a splash in FA, they should just let Oak and Ariza expire.
But my problem is that, unless they plan on making a splash in FA, they should just let Oak and Ariza expire.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:08 pm to THRILLHO
I agree with you. Maybe they think they can get Gay or another good player with a large contract somehow
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:16 pm to MrWiseGuy
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well, I really think this rumor involves Ariza much more so than it does Okafor. I don't think many GM's want anything to do with Okafors contract.
The bucks need a center and can't attract free agents. Look at the overpaid garbage already on their roster. Boston also would be far enough under the cap to take on Okafor ala MoPete to OKC. Not sure if they'd have interest tho.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:16 pm to eyeran
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Im sure its pretty tough for Demps to sell Benson on paying Okafor $30 million to go away
Exactly. Even though the owner pays the difference b/n the old and new salary, it still will be a pretty decent amount that Benson has to put up just to have Okafor go away
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:29 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Exactly. Even though the owner pays the difference b/n the old and new salary, it still will be a pretty decent amount that Benson has to put up just to have Okafor go away
Chauncey Billups got a $2 million bid from the Clippers
So, just for argument's sake, lets say Okafor gets a $5 million bid. Thats still almost $25 million Benson would be paying him.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:37 pm to eyeran
Shaun Powell doesn't know shite. I'm sure there's a big market team that would love to make everyone think 10+ Ariza is a swell deal.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:40 pm to eyeran
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So, just for argument's sake, lets say Okafor gets a $5 million bid. Thats still almost $25 million Benson would be paying him.
5-5.5 is the exact number I was thinking of that a team would bid on Okafor as well. And doesn't it have to be a team that is under the salary cap as well ? Which limits his potential suitors.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:42 pm to eyeran
I'd figure Oak to get around $8m/yr, so yeah, $10m is a lot to just drop the guy. Thing is, I don't think it's even close to worth it to use the 10th pick just to get rid of him unless we're going to spend that money on some legit FAs. Problem is, we're going to have to overpay for those "legit FAs", we're not going to get any max level caliber players to come here, and we're going to send a bad message to Gordon, whom we're trying to keep. We literally don't have a single player on our team that was drafted by the Hornets, and now we're going to deal a top 10 pick just to get rid one of two players that are solid contributors and not DRASTICALLY overpaid. This whole thing feels like a Shinn move when we're in a situation to be a pretty solid team now, and maybe be a great team with cap space in a few years.
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:56 pm to THRILLHO
quote:Yeah I agree with all of this. Just a pure salary dump would suck.
I'd figure Oak to get around $8m/yr, so yeah, $10m is a lot to just drop the guy. Thing is, I don't think it's even close to worth it to use the 10th pick just to get rid of him unless we're going to spend that money on some legit FAs. Problem is, we're going to have to overpay for those "legit FAs", we're not going to get any max level caliber players to come here, and we're going to send a bad message to Gordon, whom we're trying to keep. We literally don't have a single player on our team that was drafted by the Hornets, and now we're going to deal a top 10 pick just to get rid one of two players that are solid contributors and not DRASTICALLY overpaid. This whole thing feels like a Shinn move when we're in a situation to be a pretty solid team now, and maybe be a great team with cap space in a few years.
Thats why, if they do trade the pick, I think a deal for Jennings would be nice. I think he's already the player that we would hope Lillard would be. I know a lot of people here want Lillard.
I've also read stuff about the 10th for Collison and Indy's late first pick. I'd think about that one too
Posted on 6/6/12 at 9:08 pm to eyeran
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hornets247.com ?@hornets247
Oh, and side news. That Okafor or Ariza salary dump rumor where Hornets give up #10 pick is 100000% untrue #StopWorrying
Posted on 6/6/12 at 9:16 pm to TigerTatorTots
Good stuff.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 9:30 pm to hg
Wow this is really a juicy idea.
My concern is that we'd be shooting our load too quickly. Who was it that wrote in the ESPN column for us to not overreact to landing Davis - to build organically and patiently and not try to win a title in 2013?
If we make that trade than (for better or for worse) our "big 3" is Jennings, Gordon, and Davis for the next 4-6 years. We will re-sign all of them to big money deals because we'd have invested so much into them. So do you think that this troika can win championships?
Or do you take the safer pick at #10 in a Zeller, build up your roster more like OKC did, and be patient. Maybe CP3 returns in another year to fill out our Big 3 with no forfeited lottery pick? Maybe we can sign and trade Okafor into a more dynamic 3 than Jennings? Point is we'd have room for one more max contract in case an amazing opportunity (like CP3) came along.
I'm torn.
The one thing I do know is that if you believe Jennings/Gordon/Davis is a legitimate contending "Big Three" than you pull the trigger regardless of what Milwaukee wants. I don't care if they want #10, Jack, AND Ariza - you make the move.
If you don't think it's a contending "Big Three" than you play it conservatively and let Benson draft Zeller and pocket some money for a year or two until we can acquire that next big piece.
My concern is that we'd be shooting our load too quickly. Who was it that wrote in the ESPN column for us to not overreact to landing Davis - to build organically and patiently and not try to win a title in 2013?
If we make that trade than (for better or for worse) our "big 3" is Jennings, Gordon, and Davis for the next 4-6 years. We will re-sign all of them to big money deals because we'd have invested so much into them. So do you think that this troika can win championships?
Or do you take the safer pick at #10 in a Zeller, build up your roster more like OKC did, and be patient. Maybe CP3 returns in another year to fill out our Big 3 with no forfeited lottery pick? Maybe we can sign and trade Okafor into a more dynamic 3 than Jennings? Point is we'd have room for one more max contract in case an amazing opportunity (like CP3) came along.
I'm torn.
The one thing I do know is that if you believe Jennings/Gordon/Davis is a legitimate contending "Big Three" than you pull the trigger regardless of what Milwaukee wants. I don't care if they want #10, Jack, AND Ariza - you make the move.
If you don't think it's a contending "Big Three" than you play it conservatively and let Benson draft Zeller and pocket some money for a year or two until we can acquire that next big piece.
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 9:38 pm
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