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Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:15 pm to THRILLHO
You would basically be conceding a playoff spot with that trade, but longterm it would be good because you should still be able to trade Tyreke.
If Derozan sits at all after the trade you are screwed for this season in the west.
If Derozan sits at all after the trade you are screwed for this season in the west.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:17 pm to Colonel Flagg
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The best thing about a Love for Asik/Anderson would be getting Love when Houston was interested.
Ryno/Asik for Love would be a perfect example of what we all thought Dell was trying to do for the past few seasons: trade two acquired $0.50 pieces for a $1 piece. Only difference in my trade is that we're trading our $1 with an awful contract for cap space and another $0.50 piece.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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Toronto
What if they keep Ross?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:30 pm to THRILLHO
Yeah i think asking for Ross would be a hangup. You are basically offering them someone they have to convince to stay and an overpaid SG. Just Derozan and expiring would probably be easier to swing.
So basically it would have cost Anderson and a 1st to unload Gordon while also getting back Derozan.
You would then still have Tyreke who is definitely moveable.
So basically it would have cost Anderson and a 1st to unload Gordon while also getting back Derozan.
You would then still have Tyreke who is definitely moveable.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:35 pm to Colonel Flagg
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So basically it would have cost Anderson and a 1st to unload Gordon while also getting back Derozan.
Which is pretty reasonable. I also remember that Dell inquired about Derozan, even when we had EG/Reke.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:08 pm to THRILLHO
I like Ross a lot tho. Can DD play sf?
I'd do that 3 teamer but I'd want Ross back also or they can give up one of their young prospects. I feel like it's not enough value for us to give up Anderson asik Gordon and only get back basically DD if they wouldn't do Ross also. P
And in the orginal trade I posted if we could add Gordon and get waiters in return also that'd be ideal obvis
I'd do that 3 teamer but I'd want Ross back also or they can give up one of their young prospects. I feel like it's not enough value for us to give up Anderson asik Gordon and only get back basically DD if they wouldn't do Ross also. P
And in the orginal trade I posted if we could add Gordon and get waiters in return also that'd be ideal obvis
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:12 pm to lsuguy13
Holiday waiters Evans love Davis> holiday eg Evans Anderson&asik Davis
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:17 pm to lsuguy13
Be honest
How much video games do you play
How much video games do you play
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:20 pm to lsuguy13
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Or love and waiters for Anderson asik and waiters
Please......elaborate!
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:25 pm to lsuguy13
Well obviously Love is a much larger trade asset if he agrees to extend at the next destination.
The whole problem with trade ideas around him is because I don't trust he would be interested in some of these destinations.
The whole problem with trade ideas around him is because I don't trust he would be interested in some of these destinations.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:43 pm to THRILLHO
Toronto's ownership/management has said they want to be Lakers East, so if they thought they had a shot at keeping a star like Love, I think they'd consider breaking up what they have now. Turn Tyreke into a defensive center and depth and you're set. Would Memphis have interest in Tyreke? Koufos and Prince for Tyreke, maybe throw in a future pick to make it worth our while?
It's hard to think Demps could survive trading for Love but not landing Love, but this is the more balanced roster everyone has been asking for.
Holiday/Rivers
Derozan/Fields
Ross/Prince/Babbitt
AD/Amir Johnson
Koufos/Ajinca/Withey
It's hard to think Demps could survive trading for Love but not landing Love, but this is the more balanced roster everyone has been asking for.
Holiday/Rivers
Derozan/Fields
Ross/Prince/Babbitt
AD/Amir Johnson
Koufos/Ajinca/Withey
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:52 pm to THRILLHO
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Who says no?
Toronto hangs up laughing. Why one earth would they do that deal? Makes them considerably weaker.
The Raps are getting at least the #3 seed in the East. They have the depth and moxy to challenge Chicago.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:06 am to RonBurgundy
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Toronto hangs up laughing. Why one earth would they do that deal? Makes them considerably weaker.
They are carried by Lowry and Valanciunas. DD is their better version of Reke. If you can trade a guy like him and expirings for Love and a SG that can be "pretty good" when healthy, why not? Toronto is exactly the kind of team that can re-sign Love. Cleveland gets a poor man's love and a guy that should be one of the best big man defenders in the NBA (exactly what they need). It gives us a chance to reset with a really good trio and lots of cap space. I'll say this: it's a trade I would make, but it's not one that I think we come out way on top of. That's kind of the sign of a good trade (not if it's my opinion, but the GM's).
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:15 am to THRILLHO
I tend to agree though, it's very close but it makes Toronto too thin. Swap Gordon for Reke and maybe Toronto has more interest, but then it seems like we would lose interest because you trade away the asset you need to get a center and depth.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:27 am to BayouFann
Sry it was supposed to be Gordon
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:33 am to THRILLHO
Man, I love that deal and I can't even really figure out who would say no. Cleveland I guess, but that move really helps them. They get a poor man's Kevin Love in Ryno plus a good rim protector/rebounder which they desperately need.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:46 am to TigerinATL
It makes no sense to swap Gordon and Tyreke in this hypothetical deal.
Asik, Anderson, and Evans are not hurting our cap space as they all have reasonable deals. The only bad contract we have is Gordon which would be the only difficult one to trade.
I think if Demps was interested he could easily dump Anderson, Evans, and Asik; however, that makes no sense as they are all valuable to this team.
This whole hypothetical deal is about dumping Gordon (at least how I look at it). Gordon when healthy is worth about $8-10 million right now.
Asik, Anderson, and Evans are not hurting our cap space as they all have reasonable deals. The only bad contract we have is Gordon which would be the only difficult one to trade.
I think if Demps was interested he could easily dump Anderson, Evans, and Asik; however, that makes no sense as they are all valuable to this team.
This whole hypothetical deal is about dumping Gordon (at least how I look at it). Gordon when healthy is worth about $8-10 million right now.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 12:48 am
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:54 am to THRILLHO
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They are carried by Lowry and Valanciunas.
I love me some Valanciunas, but in no way does he carry them. Amir Johnson picks up a lot of slack defensively there as well as he is very compentent four.
DeRozan is a very nice two way player, something that's hard to come by in this league. He's a part of their plan.
Ross might be the expendable one,as his performance is up and down.
Their depth and continuity is what makes Toronto special. Lowry is very good with a nice balance around him. Take that away and he might be doing too much.
Love is going to a colder city where he is double taxed bro.
The Raps have one of the best GMs in the league. In this trade they lose a ton of assets for a guy who's never won anything that would be a rental.
So like I said, they'd hang up laughing.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:03 am to RonBurgundy
I don't think you're wrong, but you're underestimating Love's value. Look at Bosh pre and post Lebron. Look at Love's value in this past offseason. They may not want him right now since they're doing so well, but wait for a losing streak and they'll be thinking about that kind of move pretty heavily.
Do you at least agree that the trade makes sense for the Cavs? If so, the Pels have tons of options if they can get Love.
Do you at least agree that the trade makes sense for the Cavs? If so, the Pels have tons of options if they can get Love.
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