re: The picks and future picks situation

Posted by tehchampion140

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:53 pm to teke184

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Swaps mean that if the Lakers win the lottery and we are 14th, we get #1 and they get #14. We do NOT get both picks.

I understand that part. What I'm wondering is basically if there's a way via swapping that we wind up with the Lakers pick in '22, '23, and '24 if their '23 pick is higher than ours.

Posted by teke184

Zachary, LA

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:54 pm to tehchampion140

Yes, absolutely.

Because Boston did just that by drafting at the Nets' position for like 5-6 straight years between getting their pick outright and swapping picks with them.

Posted by tehchampion140

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:55 pm to TigerinATL

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But wait, there's more

Man I can't wait for the dust to settle on this. The 3 picks alone was a good haul, the swaps makes it an outstanding haul, how can it get better?

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Posted by LosLobos111

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:55 pm to tehchampion140

Pelinkas trying out do billy king

Posted by tehchampion140

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:56 pm to teke184

Got it, thanks. Incredible trade for the Pels considering Tatum was off the table and NYK likely weren't going all in with KD suffering his injury.

Posted by TigerinATL

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:56 pm to LosLobos111

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Pelinkas trying out do billy king

More like LeBron is trying to outdo a crazy Russian Billionaire.

Posted by LosLobos111

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:58 pm to TigerinATL

This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 9:58 pm

Posted by teke184

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 9:59 pm to tehchampion140

It's possible to have a one year deferment on each pick, meaning that we can say "Don't want it this year, we'll take it next year".

Having those rights means that we can refuse their picks when it is near the end of the first (say, 30) and get their pick next year when it should be lower.

The limitation is that you can only defer a pick for one year. And, if we have future picks coming after that, it affects those too.

Ex - We defer the 2021 pick to 2022. If we have a 2023 pick, it gets deferred to 2024 as well because the Lakers can't send out the 2022 and 2023 picks since those are consecutive future firsts.

Posted by saintsfan22

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:02 pm to Macintosh504

Lebron has played over 56,000 minutes in the NBA. He has to start popping ligaments soon.

Posted by teke184

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:02 pm to saintsfan22

Well he tore his groin carrying the Lakers last season. And he's now one year older and playing with a guy who has only played about 70+ games in a season about twice in his career.

Posted by Hester Carries

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:05 pm to Macintosh504

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Top-8 protected in 2021, becomes unprotected in ‘22

How does this work? What determines if its 2021 or 2022?

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Posted by teke184

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:07 pm to Hester Carries

If the Lakers' pick ends up as #8 or lower in 2021, which is highly unlikely, they keep it.

For that to happen, they have to finish outside the playoffs and either win the lottery OR be in the bottom 5-7 teams in the league and have the lottery go chalk to where they don't get bumped to 9.

Barring hell freezing over, that pick is conveying in 2021.

Posted by Colonel Flagg

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:07 pm to Hester Carries

I wish Griffin could have made it where we swap our second for first if we had the better pick and they had a later first round pick.

Posted by Colonel Flagg

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:09 pm to teke184

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Barring hell freezing over, that pick is conveying in 2021.

You would have thought they wouldn’t have had a top 8 pick this season either.

Posted by rt3

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:10 pm to teke184

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Swaps mean that if the Lakers win the lottery and we are 14th, we get #1 and they get #14. We do NOT get both picks.

I'd rather think of it as the Pels win the NBA Championship 1 of those seasons while the Lakers win the lottery

Pels get #1 overall... Lakers fall all the way to #30

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Posted by whodat24

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:10 pm to rt3

That would be the most amazing end to this terrible saga

Posted by teke184

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:11 pm to Colonel Flagg

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You would have thought they wouldn’t have had a top 8 pick this season either.

Under the old lottery odds, they'd probably have picked about 11th.

If they have AD, LeBron, and supposedly a third star, the only way they miss the playoffs is an orgy of injuries.

EDIT - Even under the current odds, they wouldn't have picked 4th in any previous draft because this is the first one to have the lottery dictate the first four picks rather than the first three.

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Posted by Fun Bunch

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Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:12 pm to Hester Carries

Whether the pick falls in the top 8 or not in 21