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re: The 2021 “protection” is better than what we thought

Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:52 am to
Posted by kadillak
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:52 am to
LeBron will be a FA in 2022. HS players will likely be eligible in 2022 creating a double draft. That's a huge haul in itself.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:53 am to
Just since 2010:

Bledsoe
George Hill
Bradley
Kawhi
Tobias Harris
Faried
Mirotic
Reggie Jackson
Butler
Fournier
Giannis
Schroeder
Gobert
Giannis
Gary Harris
Capela
Siakim
Collins
Jarrett Allen


There's also some more decent role players as well that I didn't list
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 12:54 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:55 am to
What's wild is idk if they even should max out anyone outside of like Kawhi.

They only have 32 million in cap room to sign guys. They sign their max player and 5-15 on their roster are guys on minimums. They'll have the MLE too but in reality, the Lakers from here until the foreseeable future are gonna be stacked 1-3/4 and a whole lot of shite after that.

There will be plenty of teams between toronto, GS, Philly, Boston, Houston competing for those ring chasers who will take minimum salaries but can still play. Not like in years past where there were really only 1-3 teams that were attractive to those types of players.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:59 am to
Which is exactly why I see this as such a huge risk for them.

LeBron is aging and just missed 30 games with a torn groin. And showed up plastered during some of those 30 games while he was injured.

AD has the constitution of a bubble boy.

Depending on who their third major star is, they may have another potential injury case on their hands or possibly a player whose game either fits poorly with AD and LeBron or will greatly atrophy by the time their contract is up.


They have a lot of potential to win a ring this season because the stars are aligning for someone to do so. After a few years of LeBron aging and a shite supporting cast? They’ll end up being pretty bad IMHO.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:59 am to
You got that backwards Bunch. A protected pick benefits the team trading the pick away.

If the pick is top 8, it's protected and LA keeps the pick (and then we get their first the next year instead regardless where it is).

If it's outside of the top 8, then we get it.

But LA will likely at least make the playoffs, so we'll get something outside the top 14.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 1:00 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:01 am to
You’re not correct. They did reverse protection according to the latest reports. GMs can put whatever protection they want.

Stick to football my dude.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 1:02 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:03 am to
They won’t have the full MLE since they’ll be using space to get FAs.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 1:04 am
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:04 am to
I've never seen reverse protection. You got a link to that?
Posted by Unknown_Poster
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:04 am to
Wow. Here I was bummed that it was top 8 protected.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:06 am to
Look up some old Houston trades and you will see at least one or two like that.

IIRC, Houston got some reverse-protection picks from the Raptors in the 2000s at some point before they swung the trade to get Harden, as Morey was looking to get lottery picks. They had some kind of weird protection to where they only conveyed on pick numbers 4-15, to where it was a lottery pick but not a lottery winner.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:06 am to
Andrew Lopez and a bunch of other media types have posted it on twitter.

GMs can agree to any protection they want virtually. Dell Demps once put on protection that was like 11-17 and 25-30 or some weird shite.

There’s no limit beyond Stepien Rule and 7 year Billy King Rule.

What you posted is what is traditionally correct but Griffin was REALLY smart here. Like...genius.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 1:08 am
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:11 am to
quote:

Griffin really got the reverse protections on that 2021 and the right to defer on the 2024 to 2025 if they don't like it.


quote:

The reverse protections on the 2021 pick mean it's most likely to convey in 2022. Unprotected. 2022 should have the best of both HS classes of 2021 (the last year of one-and-done) and 2022 (the first year HS grads can directly declare)


quote:



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The Bird Writes

@thebirdwrites

The Pelicans have unprotected swap rights with the Lakers in 2023. The year LeBron James Jr. graduates high school and would potentially first be eligible to be drafted into the NBA. The Pelicans would STILL have unprotected rights to another Lakers first in 24 or 25.




TBW
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:11 am to
Yeah I looked up some more protected picks and it happens but it's rare. Guess being that we weren't directly involved in one like this before I never noticed. Everytime I saw protected picks it was always the standard (or slightly weird like the skip a few picks one you posted but I think that's a if we are in the playoffs then x, if not then y).
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:13 am to
You’re generally right and that’s what most assumed. Further reports corrected the record.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6130 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:13 am to
Plot twist...Pels draft Bronny Jr with a future lakers pick.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
5642 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:14 am to
I mean I doubt the Lakers miss the playoffs, so either way we were likely not going to get the 2021 pick.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:14 am to
George RR Martin couldn’t write it any better
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130218 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:15 am to
2022 Bron will most likely be done. Griffin basically is betting on future Laker incompetence.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103942 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:16 am to
Well, maybe. We might find out within 10 years or see someone adapt it first.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103942 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:16 am to
Given the actions of the Lakers this past season, I think that is a good bet.

Magic alone isn’t responsible for all the dysfunction going on over there.
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