re: Teams very interested in Jose and CJ, Zion a hot commodity

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OR we are tanking, have no reason to over play him and risk injury, and you are dumb.

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Zion risks injury getting off the couch. If we can never take him out of the bubble wrap, what's the point? Can the guy stay in shape or not?

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Turning a 27 year old who is averaging 22/5/5 on 37% from 3 and 86% from the FT line and is capable of creating his own shot anytime he wants for a declining 33 year old center and a 30 year old center who can't play at the end of games b/c he can't defend or shoot FT's and also is the type of center that we've proven doesn't work with Zion, as well as a late 1st round pick was a good trade.

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I think we should wait and see what kind of deal BI gets before making any sweeping declarations about this trade. Personally I've been in the trade BI camp since last year. He is a fine player, but he is flawed. I think Julius Randle and Bradley Beal are very good comparisons. Great counting stats but the advanced stats are average at best. Consistently a BPM of 2 or less, WS per 48 is average, VORP under 2, negative net rating for his tenure with the Pels. At some point all those counting stats have to be a net positive on the court and it just hasn't been. At least not for 40m or more per year. Like I said, 30m is around his worth with this new CBA and I think anyone who gives him more is gonna be using picks to get off that deal in a couple years.

Marc Spears just reported CJ is staying

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Marc Spears just reported CJ is staying

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Shocker! Griffin probably preparing his extension as we speak.

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Did you just ignore the whole tanking part of that post and the unnecessary injury part just so you could act like you are proving some stupid arse point?

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This is the dumbest fricking take.

We are not sitting him bc we are tanking. Otherwise we would have 0 starters averaging 30+ min a game. That’s how you tank. CJ is staying, as we now know, so why is he playing so much?

One thing I’ve learned is to not address Galactic Queer when it comes to Zion and not address ghost2most when it comes to BI. They come into every thread and say the same shite over and over about their hatred for those 2 players. It’s pretty tiresome.

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This is the dumbest fricking take.

We are not sitting him bc we are tanking. Otherwise we would have 0 starters averaging 30+ min a game. That’s how you tank.

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The only "starters" that played +30min last game were Trey/ Missi???

So by your exact definition of "tanking" we are, you dumbass.

And to make it better (3) of our "starters" are already at 0 minutes a game for the year.

Last game? That’s your metric?

We have multiple players averaging 30+ on the season.

TREY AVERAGES 35 MIN A GAME.

I only mentioned CJ bc by all accounts, until a few min ago, he was considered on the trading block. So working him to the bone to get more value would make sense. BUT WE ARE NOT TRADING HIM.

you dumb mother frickers will do anything to ignore what is right in front of you.

Zion can not maintain the minutes. Period. He’s not as out of shape as he was before, but he is still not at a level where he can play Trey-like minutes. And he never has.

Genuinely answer this, if we are tanking and that’s why we are sitting Zion, why are CJ and Trey both getting so much usage? I’m open ears

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Our record is worse when he plays. The only teams we've beaten with Zion this year are teams we've also beaten without Zion this year.

Cold hard facts

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We are 4-11 with Zion this year (.266 win percentage)

We are 8-28 without him (.222 win percentage)

We also beat IND and POR the first time we played them with Zion, but haven’t beat them without him.

So literally nothing you said is correct

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For weeks now you've just been pretty much telling everyone to frick off and stfu and how everyone is a moron in every post. It's getting old.

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Oh I've been stressed and definitely slightly excessive at times on here so Ill own that.

But there are some miserable fricks here that cry no matter what happens.

My frustration on here comes from the fact that fans actually think Jose is meaningful in any way to this teams future rebuild and some also think having CJ on this roster means anything.

If more fans were less attached to meaningful players on losing teams the overall environment would be less hostile as a whole.

The whole point is to win a championship. The people that honestly think 33 y/o CJ or already peaked Jose have any influence over that is tough.