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TBW: Point of No Return, Pelicans should part ways with Gentry

Posted on 12/21/19 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 4:19 pm
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I didn’t care about his career 487-576 record without proper context of each coaching gig. Making Gentry the scapegoat didn’t seem fair in most of his previous stops and this current one seemed no different: all the injuries, no dominant alpha, and a delicate house of cards roster construction designed to split being competitive now and gearing up for the future. Moreover, as a New Orleans native who is passionate about his city and basketball team, Gentry has handled every pitfall, hurdle, and roadblock with class and dignity.

When things have been at their worst and we’ve been forced to view Gentry’s living hell smeared all over his demeanor, Alvin’s never elected to enter a witness protection program. He’s kept it real with the media in ways most head coaches won’t while balancing protection of his players. If anything, this Pelicans locker room knows Alvin is riding with them since here refuses to throw anyone under the bus, choosing to suffer all the heat individually.

But unfortunately no matter how brave or supporting Gentry has been, we’ve finally reached time for a change that some will tell you is long overdue. And as battered as Gentry has appeared nightly due to various levels of stress and frustration, even he may secretly agree.


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There will be some who say that moving on from Gentry now does zero for a young team with frustrated veterans. That it’ll only make things worse. But let’s get real here:

Through every obstacle New Orleans has been through from the start of the season, this shouldn’t be a 7-23 basketball team at this point in time. They shouldn’t be rivaling the 2004-05 team for the worst winning percentage in franchise history. And the consistent pattern of losing can’t be wearing well for a roster that expected to be at worst in the thick of things at the bottom of the Western Conference playoff race.


Very long article from long time Gentry apologists that is fair and well balanced. And even they say: it’s time.

Better late (5 years late) than never.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 6:11 pm to
Something I'm curious about. How much of the frustration from this season is due to Gentry still being head coach?

The long term future is undeniably 100% brighter than it's been in years. And sure, this season has been a massive flop. But the long term has always been more important than what happens this year. Making the playoffs or getting close would have been great but it's not like a window is closing or anything close to that.

So if we had the same record and same results with a brand new coach at the helm, would people be less pissed off right now?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63538 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 6:29 pm to
It's a fair article. At Least Gentry gets some respect. It's probably time to move on, though. I'm not sure there's any replacement candidate out there with a silver bullet.
We'll see, I guess.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14310 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 6:58 pm to
They would be calling for the new coach to be fired, which is exactly why it was better to keep Gentry
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 12/22/19 at 4:56 pm to
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Moreover, as a New Orleans native who is passionate about his city and basketball team, Gentry


Where did they pull this nugget of complete bullshite?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25590 posts
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:02 pm to
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So if we had the same record and same results with a brand new coach at the helm, would people be less pissed off right now?


There would at least be some excuse, but the talent of this team is too good to have this record, so id still be bitching.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47633 posts
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
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They would be calling for the new coach to be fired, which is exactly why it was better to keep Gentry



No they wouldn’t. A first year with the pelicans coach would have a pass, (especially with Zion out) that Gentry wouldn’t have
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14310 posts
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:41 pm to
Do you not see how much this fan base flips game to gane??

Same with the Saints, 1 bad play and its fire everyone
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:44 pm to
It isn’t remotely the same level with the Pelicans.

People hate Gentry and have for years. He is an extremely bad coach.

If they had hired someone else here for this year then while people would be pissed about it, it would have an entirely different tenor.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:42 am to
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would have an entirely different tenor.


I doubt it. It just would have taken a handful of "blown" games, instead of one, before the virtiol started spewing. It's what the internet and message boards do.

This board, in particular, has a track record of being fickle
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61512 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:54 am to
When things are going well fans don't tend to second guess as much. When things aren't going well, fans put their thinking caps on and try to find the obvious answers that the career professionals missed. It's the least we can do.

Gentry was a proven bad coach before he was hired so fans don't have to think to hard to single him out as an answer to what's wrong with the team. If he had been replaced by someone with a reasonable amount of fan confidence, there'd be complaining, but it'd be split between multiple competing theories on what needs to be fixed instead of unified like it is now.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:03 am to
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try to find the obvious answers that the career professionals missed. It's the least we can do.


Ha. Well done.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 9:12 am to
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Do you not see how much this fan base flips game to gane?? Same with the Saints, 1 bad play and its fire everyone


Um no lol and its not even comparable. This isn't one bad play, one bad game, or even one bad season. This is the same poorly coached team for the past 5 seasons provided by a career loser.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 9:17 am to
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This is the same poorly coached team for the past 5 seasons provided by a career loser.




exactly.

If there was a new coach, people could point at the coach but the record wouldn't be extensive enough. Context would matter. We could talk about a variety of issues.

Context DOES NOT MATTER when you've coached 17 seasons, only had a winning season in 3 of them. You're a loser.

Period.
Posted by Bradle
Houma
Member since Jul 2018
32 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:54 pm to
Gentry could have worked out.

If the pels would have traded AD for steph. He has only won with generational talents behind the 3pt line...
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