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Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 2:32 pm to
He also had a gruesome injury that may just be taking awhile.. It took Paul George awhile to look how he does now after his injury.. Its a risk worth taking IMO, and could be one of the few moves possible that could convince AD to stay.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 3:42 pm to
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He also had a gruesome injury that may just be taking awhile.. It took Paul George awhile to look how he does now after his injury.. Its a risk worth taking IMO, and could be one of the few moves possible that could convince AD to stay.


Too big a risk because of the contract IMO. He has had over a year to recover and has looked like a shell of himself. George was back playing within 8 months and a year after the injury, looked like his old self.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 3:53 pm to
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Too big a risk because of the contract IMO

2 years left (2nd year is a PO)
2019/20 32.7MM
2020/21 34.2MM

i honestly thought it was worse/longer...
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:02 pm to
lay off the grass, bro
Posted by Aussie_Pelican
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:05 pm to
Source?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:06 pm to
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2 years left (2nd year is a PO)
2019/20 32.7MM
2020/21 34.2MM

i honestly thought it was worse/longer...

And the remainder of this year (another $16 million or so).
Posted by Pelefraan 1
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:31 pm to
PG isn't leaving OKC
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:35 pm to
They were discussing it on NBA TV and how the pieces they have dont fit together, and that theres rumblings around the league that Ainge is looking to love someone for pieces that fit better..

Just my best guess is it would be Hayward and/or Rozier as they have slowly been seeing their roles cut.
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:36 pm to
What's so unrealistic with that proposal?

The money that Hayward is owed?
Posted by Pelefraan 1
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:38 pm to
Hayward is just coming back from a bad injury

If you can buy low now that would be amazing
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:42 pm to
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If you can buy low now that would be amazing

LOL

you dont buy low when you trade with ainge
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:44 pm to
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PG isn't leaving OKC
Where in any of the discussion did you get that out of it? No one suggested that.
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 4:46 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Hayward is just coming back from a bad injury

If you can buy low now that would be amazing

Not the same Hayward of a few years ago. Dell versus Ainge on a risking trade. Do you really want to put your money on Dell winning that challenge?
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Pelefraan 1
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:45 pm to
Sorry I thought someone in here was speculating getting PG
Posted by Pelefraan 1
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:47 pm to
Haywards contract is horrible but at his best he's a franchise guy. He and Wall would be the best guys on the block we could aim for
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:48 pm to
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Do you really want to put your money on Dell winning that challenge?


I feel like the Cousins, Holiday, and Mirotic were good trades. We just had extremely bad luck with injuries.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:50 pm to
Terrible Dell moves

1. Asik contract
2. Solo contract
3. Trading a 1st for Bayless

Outside of that he's been a good GM

Even better than good
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 4:51 pm to
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Too big a risk because of the contract IMO. He has had over a year to recover and has looked like a shell of himself. George was back playing within 8 months and a year after the injury, looked like his old self.


I thought about the possibility of getting Hayward about a month ago. Looked into George's injury like you did and i'm a bit concerned Hayward isn't going to get a full recovery to his old self. Not all injuries are the same, but it doesn't look good for Hayward right now.

It could just be more than the injury that's holding him back. I mean he is shooting a dreadful percentage from 3, 31%. He's shot over 40% 3 times in his career, and is a career 36% 3 point shooter.
I think he didn't come back fully and just hasn't fully accepted his new role on this team, I hope.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:25 pm to
Hes said he doesnt feel 100% yet, so he could just need more time...

It's the type of homerun swing we need to make to try and keep AD, assuming of course we cant land Beal or another star.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:33 pm to
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It's the type of homerun swing we need to make to try and keep AD, assuming of course we cant land Beal or another star.



I really feel in your posted deal we wouldn’t be overextending ourselves that much. I feel it is an optimistic deal in our favor because I wouldn’t worry about the money and would like to be stuck with their Brown/Hayward/Tatum problem. The Cousins and Mirotic trades suprised me; therefore I do not think the proposal is absolutely crazy. The money at this point only matters for flexibility and we might as well not worry about that when trying to keep AD. Regardless if Hayward never got back to what he was he, I still expect him to progress back closer to it and improve.

Rozier/Payton
Holiday
Hayward
Davis
Randle

Is strong imo
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