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So how do we feel about Scottie Barnes?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:09 pm
Just curious, but let’s say there was a deal that swapped out Zion for Scottie Barnes. Just about to start a five year rookie extension, so under team control for a long while. He’s 23 years old. Plays defense, low maintenance, less injury risk. But yes you would have to give up Bucks draft capital. Just interested to know how eager some would be for that swap.
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:15 pm to PELsu
Uhhhh we have Herb Jones at HOME
DRIVEMAN OUT
DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:18 pm to death valley driver
Nah
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:55 pm to PELsu
I'm not bailing out the Raptors. They screwed us on the Ingram deal. We should have gotten Barnes then, if we wanted him..
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:57 pm to PELsu
Barnes is waaay overpaid for what he brings.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:57 pm to PELsu
That’s a hell no despite the Ingram/Zion reunion being hilarious.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:13 pm to ShamelessPel
There's no chance on earth that the Raptors trade Barnes straight up for Zion. Barnes is a stud.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:57 pm to Taylor31
Guys….Zion wouldn’t be going to the Raptors. In theory, this would be a part of a Giannis to the Raptors.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:38 pm to PELsu
Yea, you should've made that more clear in the OP. It was obvious what you meant for those that follow trade rumors, but many on this board are out of the loop.
Barnes? Yes, he would be an awesome, no drama replacement centerpiece to pair with Trey. Here's the kicker though:
1) Bucks and no one else is taking on Zion with this recent scandal. Can you imagine the PR nightmare of them replacing a franchise legend like Giannis with an injury/professionalism risk like Zion? Still could happen with Z waived by Pels, then using another salary (CJ or Murray) outgoing.
2) If we give up the '27 MIL pick, it would have to be the best of the Pels or Bucks pick, with the worse one already owned by the Hawks. So that would leave Pels without any 1st in 2027, with a core of... Barnes, Murphy, Herb, Missi... how confident are we that that would be a playoff/ non-lotto roster in 2 seasons?
3) Do the Bucks even care about getting their '26 swap rights back at this point? They can look at the Pels' situation and say, "Well, we might be bad, but so will the Pelicans. We'll still get a good pick even with the swap." With the Zion disaster, the Murray injury, the rest of the roster lackluster and in flux-- it makes sense.
Barnes? Yes, he would be an awesome, no drama replacement centerpiece to pair with Trey. Here's the kicker though:
1) Bucks and no one else is taking on Zion with this recent scandal. Can you imagine the PR nightmare of them replacing a franchise legend like Giannis with an injury/professionalism risk like Zion? Still could happen with Z waived by Pels, then using another salary (CJ or Murray) outgoing.
2) If we give up the '27 MIL pick, it would have to be the best of the Pels or Bucks pick, with the worse one already owned by the Hawks. So that would leave Pels without any 1st in 2027, with a core of... Barnes, Murphy, Herb, Missi... how confident are we that that would be a playoff/ non-lotto roster in 2 seasons?
3) Do the Bucks even care about getting their '26 swap rights back at this point? They can look at the Pels' situation and say, "Well, we might be bad, but so will the Pelicans. We'll still get a good pick even with the swap." With the Zion disaster, the Murray injury, the rest of the roster lackluster and in flux-- it makes sense.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:05 am to DLBalla
The Trade
TOR sends: Barnes, Gradey, Quickley, #9 pick, '26 1st, '27 swap, '28 1st, '30 1st
TOR recieves: Giannis, McCullom
MIL sends: Giannis
MIL recieves: Gradey, D. Murray, #7 pick, '26 MIL1st swap rights, '27 MIL/NOP 1st(best of), TOR future draft picks: '26 1st, '27 swap, '28 1st, '30 1st
NOP sends: Murray, McCullom, '26 MIL1st swap rights, '27 MIL/NOP 1st(best of) + *(waives Z. Williamson's contract with 7.9 cap hit)
NOP recieves: Barnes, Quickley, #9 pick
Raptors get Giannis and off the Quickley contract for veteran SG in CJ.
Bucks get rebuilding package and control over their own picks back the next 2 seasons.
Pels begin new chapter with Barnes/Murphy core.
Missi/ Olynyk
Barnes/ Karlo
Murphy/ *C. Bryant (#9)
Herb/ Hawkins/ Reaves
Quickley/ Jose
TOR sends: Barnes, Gradey, Quickley, #9 pick, '26 1st, '27 swap, '28 1st, '30 1st
TOR recieves: Giannis, McCullom
MIL sends: Giannis
MIL recieves: Gradey, D. Murray, #7 pick, '26 MIL1st swap rights, '27 MIL/NOP 1st(best of), TOR future draft picks: '26 1st, '27 swap, '28 1st, '30 1st
NOP sends: Murray, McCullom, '26 MIL1st swap rights, '27 MIL/NOP 1st(best of) + *(waives Z. Williamson's contract with 7.9 cap hit)
NOP recieves: Barnes, Quickley, #9 pick
Raptors get Giannis and off the Quickley contract for veteran SG in CJ.
Bucks get rebuilding package and control over their own picks back the next 2 seasons.
Pels begin new chapter with Barnes/Murphy core.
Missi/ Olynyk
Barnes/ Karlo
Murphy/ *C. Bryant (#9)
Herb/ Hawkins/ Reaves
Quickley/ Jose
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:59 am to PELsu
Scottie Barnes mis borderline retarded, but if we could somehow get him for Z or even Z, plus some change, that would be highway robbery at this point.
I like him as a player and I think he’s immature, but harmless as a human. Wouldn’t mind rooting for him.
I like him as a player and I think he’s immature, but harmless as a human. Wouldn’t mind rooting for him.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 5:19 am to PELsu
Nobody wants the Fat slob bust. He is worthless as a trade asset right now
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:19 am to PUB
Then why waive or rid him now. It does nothing to benefit us.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:00 am to brmark70816
quote:
They screwed us on the Ingram deal.
Our fans and front office screwed us on the Ingram deal. You can't blame Toronto for allowing our own stupidity to get the better of us.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:02 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:
Scottie Barnes is borderline retarded
He's way less retarded than ZIon.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:04 am to htran90
quote:
Then why waive or rid him now.
Because he has sucked the life out of the franchise for 6 years.
quote:
It does nothing to benefit us.
It opens cap space and gets a lazy dumbass out of the locker room so he can't poison our chemistry further.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:15 am to DLBalla
For sure, now we are getting somewhere. I think Milwaukee would want Barnes though.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:53 am to DLBalla
quote:
TOR sends: Barnes, Gradey, Quickley, #9 pick, '26 1st, '27 swap, '28 1st, '30 1st
TOR recieves: Giannis, McCullom
MIL sends: Giannis
MIL recieves: Gradey, D. Murray, #7 pick, '26 MIL1st swap rights, '27 MIL/NOP 1st(best of), TOR future draft picks: '26 1st, '27 swap, '28 1st, '30 1st
NOP sends: Murray, McCullom, '26 MIL1st swap rights, '27 MIL/NOP 1st(best of) + *(waives Z. Williamson's contract with 7.9 cap hit)
NOP recieves: Barnes, Quickley, #9 pick
Raptors get Giannis and off the Quickley contract for veteran SG in CJ.
Bucks get rebuilding package and control over their own picks back the next 2 seasons.
Pels begin new chapter with Barnes/Murphy core.
Missi/ Olynyk
Barnes/ Karlo
Murphy/ *C. Bryant (#9)
Herb/ Hawkins/ Reaves
Quickley/ Jose
I really like this in theory, but that Pels squad would not be fun to watch. Who is gonna score? Whatever. If I could waive a magic wand I would make this happen.
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