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SI’s latest mock, based on rumors and buzz, has Shaedon Sharpe falling to us at 8.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:03 am
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:03 am
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Jeremy Woo does his mocks largely based on what he’s hearing around the league.
He thinks Sharpe is one of the hardest prospects to call where he goes and thinks there’s a good amount of trepidation on him now.
He believes that he could fall to 7 or 8 and both the Blazers and us could decide to trade back.
Thinks we are a good spot because he wouldn’t need to play at all for us next year, maybe even for two years, and he’s a guy that if he hits, it’s a big hit.
Jeremy Woo does his mocks largely based on what he’s hearing around the league.
He thinks Sharpe is one of the hardest prospects to call where he goes and thinks there’s a good amount of trepidation on him now.
He believes that he could fall to 7 or 8 and both the Blazers and us could decide to trade back.
Thinks we are a good spot because he wouldn’t need to play at all for us next year, maybe even for two years, and he’s a guy that if he hits, it’s a big hit.
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While Sharpe drew a lot of buzz from teams at the combine, some of that excitement has turned to trepidation over the past couple weeks, and it’s clear that a lot is going to hinge on how he handles his individual workouts. This is probably about as far as he could hypothetically fall, and he’s getting looks from teams in the top five due to his immense athletic gifts and shot-making potential. The issue is that it’s hard to expect a player who hasn’t played in many high-level game environments to really help an NBA team in the immediate future, and also that a lot of teams simply haven’t evaluated him for a prolonged period of time due to COVID, his late-blooming high-school career, and the fact he sat out at Kentucky.
Considering Sacramento, Indiana and Portland currently seem focused on making real improvements next season, the prospect of taking on a project like Sharpe might be a little less appealing in those spots, but at some point, his upside is hard to pass on. If he makes it out of the top six, he might become a trade target at No. 7 and No. 8, and it’s also possible the Blazers or Pelicans could just decide to take a huge swing on him. New Orleans is in a pretty flexible position with this pick, but if Sharpe were to unexpectedly slip, this would be a low-pressure situation for him to develop his game.
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:06 am to Fun Bunch
I can see him falling. His limited tapes, quality of opponents, haven’t played competitive basketball in over a year, and unimpressive pro day probably have teams nervous.
I’m not even sure the Pelicans would pull the trigger on him right now.
I’m not even sure the Pelicans would pull the trigger on him right now.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:08 am to supe12sta12z
I know this could look super dumb in a couple of years if he turns into a superstar, but for us...I would pass. See if someone wants him enough to move up and gives great value, or just take someone else.
Honestly I just hope Portland decides to take him or moves that pick and someone does.
A team like us can take some risks, but I feel like that is way too big of a risk.
Honestly I just hope Portland decides to take him or moves that pick and someone does.
A team like us can take some risks, but I feel like that is way too big of a risk.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:16 am to supe12sta12z
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I’m not even sure the Pelicans would pull the trigger on him right now.
I would be as mad as when we traded out of Garland to take Hayes if he falls and we decide to trade back or skip over him.
I'm not as convinced he will translate like I was Garland, only becuase I havent seen any college level tape, but what is there is a guy with top 10 player in this league ceiling, at the most important position, and a position we will need as CJ ages. And you simply dont pass up someone with that type of upside when this may be the last time we ever pick this high(no guarantee Lakers or Bucks pick ever fall top 10, even if everyone is in the off-season optimism mode).
He would be our Jonathan Kuminga. Superstar upside but will need 2-3 seasons to develop...which we can offer.
Pels also have no real need to find an immediate contributor. Minutes would already be tough to come by even for the more "NBA ready" players expected to be at 8-14.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 10:17 am
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
I’m willing to consider him at 8. Lots of potential upside and would have been considered for #1 overall next year if he had returned to Kentucky and done well.
Trading up to get him at 4-5? Less so. That’s the Darius Garland risk from when we got Jax and NAW, as I wouldn’t have wanted to spend the 4th on a guy who only played about 4 college games before getting injured.
Trading up to get him at 4-5? Less so. That’s the Darius Garland risk from when we got Jax and NAW, as I wouldn’t have wanted to spend the 4th on a guy who only played about 4 college games before getting injured.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:20 am to Bronc
Most guys expected to be there at 8 have role playing starter ceiling at best. If one of the good starter or better ceiling guys fall to you, you have to take them unless your due diligence gives you reason to think that ceiling isn't realistic.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:24 am to TigerinATL
I've also heard multiple people say recently that the Pels put an extremely strong amount of emphasis on personality, character and hard work ethic in the draft process, maybe more than any team.
If they give Sharpe a passing grade on that, great. But there are so many little rumors about him in the character department (and especially the people surrounding him) that I'm not sure he would be a Pelicans fit.
If they give Sharpe a passing grade on that, great. But there are so many little rumors about him in the character department (and especially the people surrounding him) that I'm not sure he would be a Pelicans fit.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:26 am to Fun Bunch
Honestly, if he's there at 8 and OKC wants to move up I take that trade in an instant...can still get guys at 12 that are solid, spend less money, and get future assets to keep building the roster as necessary.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:28 am to Fun Bunch
I like that he is falling---Don't want to start that trend of 1-3 HS ranked guys not even playing because they still will be drafted Top 3-5.
We've seen plenty of times that those HS rankings don't mean crap. Bol Bol would have been a top 5 pick straight out of HS.
We've seen plenty of times that those HS rankings don't mean crap. Bol Bol would have been a top 5 pick straight out of HS.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:32 am to The_Duke
I would take him at 8, though I am worried about the probability of him actually hitting his ceiling. Usually we retain this sort of thing for Euro's for some reason, but he's in that mold of high ceiling but I'm not sure how confident I am that he actually gets there.
I haven't seen a ton of him, but the first step and the handle seem to be a little lacking to me. At least in regards to being selected so high. I don't think it's bad necessarily, but I expect a little more from a high lottery pick.
I haven't seen a ton of him, but the first step and the handle seem to be a little lacking to me. At least in regards to being selected so high. I don't think it's bad necessarily, but I expect a little more from a high lottery pick.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:34 am to BallHawk
Also, I think it a realistic possibility that Mathurin slips to 12.
Pels get:
#12
#34
2023 DET 1st (top 1 protected)
Mike Muscala
Thunder get:
#8
#52
Graham
We also get a $11.5 TPE and then get the ability to use the full non-tax MLE this offseason to get someone of significance to help this team this year or use that exception to acquire that via trade
Thunder have a ton of picks and can't use them all
Pels get:
#12
#34
2023 DET 1st (top 1 protected)
Mike Muscala
Thunder get:
#8
#52
Graham
We also get a $11.5 TPE and then get the ability to use the full non-tax MLE this offseason to get someone of significance to help this team this year or use that exception to acquire that via trade
Thunder have a ton of picks and can't use them all
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:35 am to CP3forMVP
I think no one on here is really qualified to judge his actual game a lot since virtually no one has seen him play.
But that is part of the problem. He has barely played for years, has faced very little in the way of actual high level competition, and there are a lot of rumors out there about him and his surrounding people.
But that is part of the problem. He has barely played for years, has faced very little in the way of actual high level competition, and there are a lot of rumors out there about him and his surrounding people.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:44 am to BallHawk
A salary dump of Graham for Muscala and getting a Detroit 2023 first (likely mid-late lottery) isn’t bad for moving down four spots and swapping 2nds.
Which is why I wonder why OKC would do it.
Which is why I wonder why OKC would do it.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:44 am to Fun Bunch
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the Pels put an extremely strong amount of emphasis on personality, character and hard work ethic in the draft process, maybe more than any team.
And they should. To strengthen your culture you have to keep doubling down on your core values. That's the tricky part. Why was he playing so casually at the combine? Is he soft and lazy? Or has he just never been pushed to be his best?
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
sorry but Pels don't need more young players they need to trade the pick for a vet in a position of need because they are young enough and need veteran leadership
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:47 am to grich31
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sorry but Pels don't need more young players they need to trade the pick for a vet in a position of need because they are young enough and need veteran leadership
Quite the opposite. While they need to convert guys like Graham and Temple into more useful players...
The Pelicans are going to be approaching a huge salary crunch shortly and will be on the verge of the luxury tax ever year.
Hitting on young draft talent that cost controlled for a number of years is essential.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:49 am to Fun Bunch
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and there are a lot of rumors out there about him and his surrounding people.
Can you post some links to this?
I have not heard any of this.
Frankly, the stuff I have heard speaks neutral to well of him: graduated high school early, was reportedly a grinder in Canada, which is how his stock blew up(he was not highly recruited til 2020, went to a lesser school in Canada, but dominated the AAU circuit once he went to it). Biggest knock I can find is him having a more reserved personality and maybe not having that alpha mentality, which, I don't necessarily see as a problem.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:51 am to Fun Bunch
Still begs the question of what vets we would be able to bring in and if they are the right fit.
OKC was mentioned above. One guy who is available roughly matches Graham’s contract but it is Favors. That didn’t work out well last time around.
They also have Keinrich on a non-guaranteed deal and he is someone I wouldn’t mind having back but he isn’t really in our long term plans if he is going to get paid after this season.
OKC was mentioned above. One guy who is available roughly matches Graham’s contract but it is Favors. That didn’t work out well last time around.
They also have Keinrich on a non-guaranteed deal and he is someone I wouldn’t mind having back but he isn’t really in our long term plans if he is going to get paid after this season.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:51 am to grich31
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need veteran leadership
CJ McCollum is one of the best leaders we could ask for, and he’s already on the roster.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 10:51 am to Bronc
You can search for them if you want. 
I've heard it on podcasts as well. Everyone is pretty vague, but there seems to be a lot of "concern" with some "elements of his camp", and no one says more than that.
I've heard it on podcasts as well. Everyone is pretty vague, but there seems to be a lot of "concern" with some "elements of his camp", and no one says more than that.
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