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re: Shaedon Sharpe
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:03 pm to Kerchek
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:03 pm to Kerchek
quote:yup, but I wouldn’t be upset at all if we picked him. He also has his moments where he looks like a Turbo NAW. High turnovers, can be a bit out of control, defense questionable.
I don't but Ivey is a 40% 3 point shooter. His shooting regressed horribly as the season progressed. His form is similar to Ja, it's as if he pushes the ball.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 3:04 pm
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:38 pm to Macintosh504
Add in his terrible midrange game. (like 20%).
I just don't buy him (Ivey) as a shooter.
I just don't buy him (Ivey) as a shooter.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:53 pm to Kerchek
quote:
Jaden Hardy, Emoni Bates, and Patrick Baldwin Jr where the # 2, 3, and 5 ranked recruits out of highschool.
Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jonathan kuminga, & Scottie Barnes were the 1, 3, 4, & 6th ranked recruits out of high school
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:59 pm to Kerchek
quote:he’s only 20 so I’m not going to over think him too much but his style of play may not be beneficial come playoff time when half court offense is more frequent and the game slow downs more often.
Add in his terrible midrange game. (like 20%). I just don't buy him (Ivey) as a shooter.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:43 pm to Macintosh504
Exactly my worry. Teams will just leave him open from 3 and dare him to hit.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:22 pm to Pelicans4Real
quote:
if we took him with any pick in the top four?
top 4? nah...
top 8? sure...
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:52 pm to Kerchek
He's not a bad shooter by any means. Certainly better than Ja.
I think he'll be atleast an average shooter at worst.
I think he'll be atleast an average shooter at worst.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:42 am to Lester Earl
To add to that. Bates and Patrick Baldwin weren’t 100%. I don’t mind taking Baldwin in the second round which could be a steal. Hardy actually improved at the end of the season during the gleague fwiw.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:10 am to TeamCKennedy
Sharpe may be the only head above the rim player in the draft, plus he has good size and at least decent ball skills.
Obviously everyone would like to see him compete against older competition, but it’s hard to throw rocks at management that takes the best vertical athlete in the draft.
Obviously everyone would like to see him compete against older competition, but it’s hard to throw rocks at management that takes the best vertical athlete in the draft.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:19 am to brmark70816
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The one from LSU? Wasn't he a 3 star? I don't remember him being a big time recruit..
He looked like Ja Morant in high school
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:54 am to Kerchek
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Jaden Hardy, Emoni Bates, and Patrick Baldwin Jr where the # 2, 3, and 5 ranked recruits out of highschool.
Skal Labissière would have been the #1 pick based on HS rankings if he didn't have to go to college haha
I do find Sharpe intriguing tho--Def a high-risk, high-reward type player. Calipari has a high hit rate with guards.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:08 am to smoke225
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Getting the best available player is what you do, selecting a role player over a possible superstar is frickin dumb
You never know who will be successful and who won’t. But if you have a pretty good guarantee that you could get a really solid 6th man to put around your existing stars, that satisfies a good fit and need, I think you have to do that over taking a chance on a superstar hitting. Again, can’t guarantee anything, but I think you could better identify a “role player” 6th man type than taking a chance on a superstar. Similar to how the saints seem to draft for situational fit/need.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:37 pm to TackySweater
You never know how a kid is going to develop, who saw Herb being the player he turned out to be.
My point, when talking about 19 and 20 year old kids, you just can't tell who will be a hit and who will be a bust.
My point, when talking about 19 and 20 year old kids, you just can't tell who will be a hit and who will be a bust.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:18 pm to Earthquake
quote:
My point, when talking about 19 and 20 year old kids, you just can't tell who will be a hit and who will be a bust.
Right. I agree. So my point was take the better odds. You have a better chance of identifying a highly contributing role player with a great fit over a BPA hoping for a superstar.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:52 pm to RUFshreve
Curious as to what makes you think he's an average shooter at worst.
He shot 25% from 3 his freshman year. And over the last 15 games he shot 25% on 5 attempts.
Plenty to be scared of.
He shot 25% from 3 his freshman year. And over the last 15 games he shot 25% on 5 attempts.
Plenty to be scared of.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:55 pm to TackySweater
Just look at the Bucks.
One superstar in Giannis. Then you have a bunch of high-level role players who play to their strengths.
Give me that roster construction over a team like the Nets who had 3 superstars at one point and no role-players.
Only one ball to go around.
One superstar in Giannis. Then you have a bunch of high-level role players who play to their strengths.
Give me that roster construction over a team like the Nets who had 3 superstars at one point and no role-players.
Only one ball to go around.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:25 pm to Kerchek
When the Nets had Kyrie and Durant on the floor they were the best offense in the league with an offensive rating of 122.8. So much ball to go around wasn’t an issue for them, defense was.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 5:35 pm to CP3forMVP
That's exactly my point.
We have two super-stars in Ingram and Zion.
Our priority should be adding high caliber role players around them that can defend and shoot.
Look at the Celtics, two "superstars" in Tatum and Brown. Surrounded my a team full of high level role players.
We have two super-stars in Ingram and Zion.
Our priority should be adding high caliber role players around them that can defend and shoot.
Look at the Celtics, two "superstars" in Tatum and Brown. Surrounded my a team full of high level role players.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 6:26 pm to Kerchek
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That's exactly my point.
We have two super-stars in Ingram and Zion.
Our priority should be adding high caliber role players around them that can defend and shoot.
Look at the Celtics, two "superstars" in Tatum and Brown. Surrounded my a team full of high level role players.
I think the priority should be adding the best players you can. If you have Paolo #1 on your board you should take him. The whole “there’s only one ball to go around” thing has been proven to be false time and time again. You can have high usage guys, but as long as they’re also high IQ guys you can make it work.
Boston, funny enough, I would say is an example of this. They added Tatum and Kyrie in the same offseason. They added Gordon Hayward after that. They added multiple high usage offensive guys, when in your example, they should have been going after high caliber role players, and they did it multiple times.
Most of the high caliber role players were added later in the draft, they just hit on their picks. But there is also a ton of talk of how they’re gonna keep that roster together. Tatum and Brown only make $55M combined. Steph and Klay make $84M, Kyrie and Durant make $77M, Kawhi and George make $79M, hell Giannis and Middleton make $75M AND they pay Jrue $32M on tip of that. They may only have one superstar, but they essentially pay 3.
There is already a ton of talk how Boston keeps that roster together
Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:47 pm to CP3forMVP
I like how Phoenix built that team with bridges and cam Johnson.
Pels need another guy like that.
Pels need another guy like that.
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