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Rodney Hood and realistic targets for the Small Forward position
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:42 pm
New to this board. A lot guys active here, but are you also on r/NOLAPelicans on reddit? Seems like that would be a more popular site for frequent Pels chatting. Anyway ...
I want to bring this up here because I did not see much about it:
Rodney Hood liked some Instagram comments about playing for/joining the Pelicans. I think this would be a great addition to our team, but I assume he would want more money and/or years than we could sign him for using our trade exceptions.
My questions are: with actions like the instagram stuff, and his infamous 2018 playoff run, why would Cleveland want him back? He doesn't want to play there, clearly.
Why wouldn't they make him an UFA?
If you're the Pelicans, his ability to run, create his own shot, and his length, make him a fantastic candidate for the Small Forward position. Why not make a stronger push for him?
I want to bring this up here because I did not see much about it:
Rodney Hood liked some Instagram comments about playing for/joining the Pelicans. I think this would be a great addition to our team, but I assume he would want more money and/or years than we could sign him for using our trade exceptions.
My questions are: with actions like the instagram stuff, and his infamous 2018 playoff run, why would Cleveland want him back? He doesn't want to play there, clearly.
Why wouldn't they make him an UFA?
If you're the Pelicans, his ability to run, create his own shot, and his length, make him a fantastic candidate for the Small Forward position. Why not make a stronger push for him?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:54 pm to marlin0814
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Seems like that would be a more popular site for frequent Pels chatting.
Guess not, Son.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:56 pm to SLafourche07
HA, I mean, seeing how active this board is, I was surprised.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:58 pm to marlin0814
It’s a Louisiana based message board and one of the most active ones. Reddit doesn’t seem to be that popular in Louisiana as opposed to other places.
I glance at Reddit from time to time but not a huge fan.
Anyway. Hood has been discussed here at length. Use the Search function.
Why would Cleveland make him a UFA when they don’t have to? I’m sure they would prefer to keep him for cheap for another year.
I glance at Reddit from time to time but not a huge fan.
Anyway. Hood has been discussed here at length. Use the Search function.
Why would Cleveland make him a UFA when they don’t have to? I’m sure they would prefer to keep him for cheap for another year.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:12 pm to Fun Bunch
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Why would Cleveland make him a UFA when they don’t have to? I’m sure they would prefer to keep him for cheap for another year.
Right, he's an asset. Why would they want to give that away, if they could actually get an asset in return for him?
If the Pels do make a move for him in a sign and trade (basically the only way that the Pels can get him), the contract would have to be 3 years. Not sure that the Pels want to limit their cap space next offseason for Rodney Hood, but possibly.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:18 pm to Epic Cajun
I just figure, we saw Julius Randle fall into our laps because LA renounced his rights.
Bulls renounced Nwaba.
This seems to be happening more now than I remember in recent years. Actual rotation players, too.
I assume it's GMs working, coordinating with agents to give these players the best opportunity to succeed.
With Hood being so public about wanting to play for another team, it seems like a move to get Cleveland to renounce him or, at least, trade him. I mean, it's been two-plus weeks of FA, and no one is signing him to an offer sheet, including CLE.
Bulls renounced Nwaba.
This seems to be happening more now than I remember in recent years. Actual rotation players, too.
I assume it's GMs working, coordinating with agents to give these players the best opportunity to succeed.
With Hood being so public about wanting to play for another team, it seems like a move to get Cleveland to renounce him or, at least, trade him. I mean, it's been two-plus weeks of FA, and no one is signing him to an offer sheet, including CLE.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:22 pm to Epic Cajun
Also, wouldn't the most money we could offer him, per year, is the value of the Q-Pon exception, $3.8mil? That doesn't tie up really any of our cap space heading into next summer.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:25 pm to marlin0814
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wouldn't the most money we could offer him, per year, is the value of the Q-Pon exception, $3.8mil
Without salary going out, yes.
If we did a S&T and had salary going out, we could actually do an uneven trade where we take back a bit more money than we send out.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:30 pm to Fun Bunch
Interesting. Would you do Solomon Hill & Alexis Ajinca for George Hill and Rodney Hood? We'd be taking on the worse contract, but it's a bigger expiring next summer. He could also help our depth at PG.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:32 pm to marlin0814
In both cases you mentioned they were released to create cap space to sign someone else. The Pels also have no cap space so you’d have to trade for him in a S&T which means giving up something of value. I figure you’re at least looking at Ajinca + Diallo. Another trade I’ve seen would be Miller/Okafor/2nd for a S&T.
Another thing about S&Ts are they have to be at least 3 years long. If you’re giving Hood $6-$10 million that possibly makes bigger moves down the line more difficult. Unfortunately it’s not as simple as he’s a UFA and we have the cap space to give him a 1 year deal.
Another thing about S&Ts are they have to be at least 3 years long. If you’re giving Hood $6-$10 million that possibly makes bigger moves down the line more difficult. Unfortunately it’s not as simple as he’s a UFA and we have the cap space to give him a 1 year deal.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:50 pm to marlin0814
quote:There goes this thread.
A lot guys active here, but are you also on r/NOLAPelicans on reddit?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:17 pm to marlin0814
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Bulls renounced Nwaba.
In order to give an offer sheet to Parker.
Cleveland has no incentive to make him unrestricted.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:24 pm to NOFOX
We don't need to get tied up into any shitty contracts this season. I don't want to call this season a wash, but the Warriors will repeat. All I'm hoping for is to upset a couple teams and possibly win a couple games in the second round of the playoffs.
Next year, we will have some decisions to make but we will have a ton of money. The Warriors will have to decide who to pay and who to cut next year. There's also this Timberwolf that will be around next year in Free Agency. He would be perfect for our team. All in all, Go Pels.
Next year, we will have some decisions to make but we will have a ton of money. The Warriors will have to decide who to pay and who to cut next year. There's also this Timberwolf that will be around next year in Free Agency. He would be perfect for our team. All in all, Go Pels.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:31 pm to Laman1978
Cleve pretending hood has value.
They can't wait to deal him.
Take my wife, please.
Lets see
Few rebounds.
Less assists.
Turrble 3 pt shooting in playoffs.
He needs a fresh start.
Cleve knows it.
He knows it.
Do the man a solid and deal hill for him and Clev's 2nd in 2020.
They can't wait to deal him.
Take my wife, please.
Lets see
Few rebounds.
Less assists.
Turrble 3 pt shooting in playoffs.
He needs a fresh start.
Cleve knows it.
He knows it.
Do the man a solid and deal hill for him and Clev's 2nd in 2020.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:48 pm to CelticDog
You're really onto something. He does have some value, but not much. I think a lot of teams wouldn't even look at him after the fiasco in the playoffs. For the Pels, he is a risk worth taking.
Don't forget he has an injury history as well. He gets "nervous stomach" on game days. I remember him sitting out a couple games last season for it.
Don't forget he has an injury history as well. He gets "nervous stomach" on game days. I remember him sitting out a couple games last season for it.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:50 pm to Large Farva
Unless we trade for Jimmy Butler, and he resigns here like Paul George in OKC, he won't come in FA. Don't forget Kyrie had asked to be traded to Chicago to play with his friend.
I see those two teaming up somewhere, possibly with KD.
I see those two teaming up somewhere, possibly with KD.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:51 pm to NOFOX
Except, aren't they well into the tax? Resigning him will cost them a lot more than his salary.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:57 pm to marlin0814
If they team up with kd, Goldies might go undefeated.
They've got curry, iggy, Klay and green and kd.
Maybe some boogie by march.
Adding butler and Paul George seems unfair.
Goldies can give back iggy and Livingston if they get back George and butler. They can send cousins too.
They've got curry, iggy, Klay and green and kd.
Maybe some boogie by march.
Adding butler and Paul George seems unfair.
Goldies can give back iggy and Livingston if they get back George and butler. They can send cousins too.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:23 am to CelticDog
Not sure I trade Hill for Hood. I know, why u say?.... Only way we compete with Warriors is DEFENDING them. Hood will not defend better than a healthy Hill.
If Hill limits Durant to say 27 points on 9-20 including a few free throws and 2-3 threes, and Hill gets say 12 points (which should be the goal for him), I take that than Hood putting up 20, but gave up 35+ to Durant.
Hill's defense is his potential value to any contender if he's healthy. Last year, wasn't a good barometer if he is worthy of his value to the team. He's not there to light up the scoreboard but to limit the other.
Now, if Hood is attained short of the 1st nine in rotation, fine. But, not trading any of our "defensive" players for mediocre offense. The tradeoff is not worth it. I like Hood, don't get me wrong and could probably start for Hill, but I only see defensive ability to stopping pace and space ball.
If Hill limits Durant to say 27 points on 9-20 including a few free throws and 2-3 threes, and Hill gets say 12 points (which should be the goal for him), I take that than Hood putting up 20, but gave up 35+ to Durant.
Hill's defense is his potential value to any contender if he's healthy. Last year, wasn't a good barometer if he is worthy of his value to the team. He's not there to light up the scoreboard but to limit the other.
Now, if Hood is attained short of the 1st nine in rotation, fine. But, not trading any of our "defensive" players for mediocre offense. The tradeoff is not worth it. I like Hood, don't get me wrong and could probably start for Hill, but I only see defensive ability to stopping pace and space ball.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 1:26 am
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:02 pm to irvchilichill1
I'm not big on Hood and wouldn't give him any serious money, after this past post season. Right now, I'm more curious about if our 3 bigs can play together at times and finish games together. Both Randle and Mirotic seem like more natural PFs. But if they can scheme the defense to adjust for that, it would give us a serious advantage. I'd like to see them try it before making any huge moves..
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