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re: Rockets target Anderson. Pelicans have NOT shown interest in Omer Asik.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:06 pm to Jester
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:06 pm to Jester
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Well, someone has to pay that extra $4M.
and not pay the "Extra" $4M this year
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Clearing the cap doesn't mean you get to use Monopoly money.
if benson is worried about $1M in "excess" spending, we're never going to do shite
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but it is a definite consideration.
if it's a consideration, then we should all find another team b/c we'll always be mediocre at best
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:06 pm to Interception
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Why is this even a debate?
It saves nothing in cap room and replaces a pure shooter with another one-dimensional player. It is what it is.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Parson's has to have one of the top 5 best salaries in the nba, but you can't do an Asik for Ryno deal without Parsons. Harden/D12 with those two shooters in your own division is irresponsible.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if benson is worried about $1M in "excess" spending, we're never going to do shite
It's $4,000,000, and not all free spending benefits the franchise. Be frugal, not cheap when building.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:07 pm to Jester
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replaces a pure shooter with another one-dimensional player. It is what it is.
the question is rarity and value
asik has a rare skill. we do not have a guy like him on our current roster
rybot does not bring a rare skill to the table. rybot's skill is also pretty replaceable from our current roster.
both have about the same cap hit
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Again :headshakeguy: I didn't say HOU should make the trade. If they were in the East or at least not in the Pels division, the Asik deal would look pretty good. But since they are the Rockets' trying to build a title team right here and now, I would only do a lopsided deal with them.
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:09 pm to Jester
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It's $4,000,000,
only if you ignore the $3-4M haircut this year, which is foolish
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Be frugal, not cheap when building.
we're not building anymore. we're built other than spare parts. otherwise we're just exchanging solidified pieces for solidified pieces
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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asik has a rare skill. we do not have a guy like him on our current roster
Correct
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rybot does not bring a rare skill to the table. rybot's skill is also pretty replaceable from our current roster.
Wrong
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the question is rarity and value
asik has a rare skill. we do not have a guy like him on our current roster
rybot does not bring a rare skill to the table. rybot's skill is also pretty replaceable from our current roster.
Saying it doesn't make it true. Ryno has put himself in very rare air with his shooting at volume. Asik provides absolutely nothing that rare. He is a defensive only 5. Don't overrate that.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we're not building anymore. we're built other than spare parts.
Unless there's some major deal involving Gordon you're right about that.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:10 pm to CocoLoco
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Wrong
we have 2, 35%+ 3PT guys in gordon and holiday
that's assuming evans goes into the shitter this year and doesn't improve at all
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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only if you ignore the $3-4M haircut this year, which is foolish
Your math is foolish.
5.6+15=20.6
8.3+8.3=16.6
20.6-16.6= four million dollars
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:12 pm to Jester
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Asik provides absolutely nothing that rare.
asik has like a top 5 defensive impact on a team. rybot's offense doesn't provide the same impact
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He is a defensive only 5. Don't overrate that.
and rybot is an offensive 4 only, who gives up about as much as he gives himself
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
You keep saying that Asik has a rare skill, as if because you say it, it must be true. It isn't true. His skill isn't rare at all.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:12 pm to jamal
quote:Look man I love Ryno but this is not true. Asik is one of the only centers in the NBA that can handle Dwight. We need him.
Anderson>>>>>>Asik.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:13 pm to Jester
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8.3+8.3=16.6
20.6-16.6= four million dollars
that comparison makes no sense

i'm comparing the 5.6/15 average, and the $15M actual payment only has a "wow" factor if you ignore how cheap $5.6M is for asik this year. ignoring that is foolish, and minimizes any "Excess" spending the next year
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:13 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Anderson raining 3's on us
He didn't exactly rain threes on anyone last year
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we're not building anymore. we're built other than spare parts. otherwise we're just exchanging solidified pieces for solidified pieces

Order those championship plaques, Tom.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Asik makes around $5.6M this year, then $15+M in '14-'15.
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but his cap hit is only $8.33M per
can someone please elaborate?!
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