re: Random Offseason Trades: The Thread

Dejounte Murray, Kelly Olynyk, 2026 IND 1st (1-4 thru 2027, otherwise 2 2nds) & Pels '28 1st lotto protected
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Lauri
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CJ, Olynyk, '26 IND 1st for Lauri & #21
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CJ, Olynyk, '26 IND 1st & #7 for Lauri & #5
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Herb, CJ, Dejounte & '26 IND 1st for Lauri, Sexton, & Martin Jr .

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Truth be told. I don’t think Houston wants to trade 1 of those guys, let alone all 3.

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Truth be told, they can't afford all of their players and simultaneously want to upgrade.

Atleast (1) of Green/ Sengun/ Jabari will be gone.
Atleast (1) of Eason/ Sheppard/ Whitmore will be gone.

If they really want Giannis then JSJ makes the most sense but MIL might not want him. So replacing Sengun for Giannis make the next most sense positionally.

Lets say we take out Sheppard/Jose/ 28' swap/ 29' 1st:

MIL: J Green/ Hawk/ Reeves
(26' MIL swap/ 27' MIL/ 27' HOU/ 29' PHX)

HOU: Giannis/ Herb/ Olynyk
(26' Pels)

PELS: Sengun/ T Eason


Murray/ Jose
CJ/ #7
Trey/ T Eason
Zion/ Karlo
Sengun/ Missi

We keep all our picks 28' + and the trade is essentially

Herb + (2) 1st + (1) swap for Sengun/ T Eason, which is a beyond reasonable trade IMO

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They can just trade directly with the Rockets, get 4 good players, plus 5-6 picks/swaps. Then just trade with us after, to get their picks back.

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You aren't considering the projected picks... (2) top 10 picks are way more valuable than (4) 1st from a team who will be competing and end up #25-#30. That swap may be #4 to #20 so its legit an extra 1st and in reality would cost 1-2 1st to move up that far.

We own the Bucks picks for 26, and 27'. That is why we are expected to be in those trade talks. If they trade Giannies (while losing B Lopez) they are going to be BAD. Both those picks should easily be top 10 if not top 5.

So you are giving them (2) top 10 picks, (2) future picks, and an all-star caliber player in J Green.

I don't disagree that 1-2 more swaps/ picks wouldn't be out of question but that can also be done easily. This is a more possible outcome/ scenario than some may think.

The Bucks 26' and 27' picks coupled with a Giannis exit is the best return they will get besides a top 5 spurs pick this year. And apparently MIL really likes Jalen Green as a returning asset.

Cam Johnson, 19, 26, 27 & 36
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7, Jordan Hawkins & Kelly Olynyk

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They flip Lillard to the Suns for Beal.

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Why in the hell would Beal OK this?

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Bucks, with Giannis, is still a tough team. We should probably start focusing on other possibilities..

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Agree, if Giannis remains with the Bucks those picks we have are worthless.

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They flip Lillard to the Suns for Beal.

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You do realize he can veto any trade? Think he rather stay in Phoenix or play in Milwaukee. He’s only waving that to go to a destination city. Him going there wouldn’t tilt the scales to get a ship anyway.

Bucks are pretty much screwed with Lillards injury.

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You do realize he can veto any trade?

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Yes. I am aware.

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he rather stay in Phoenix or play in Milwaukee. He’s only waving that to go to a destination city. Him going there wouldn’t tilt the scales to get a ship anyway.

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He has stated twice before that he would waive it for the Bucks, including at the past deadline. It's a good situation for him, for the reasons I listed before. Where he lives has nothing to do with where he plays.

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Bucks are pretty much screwed with Lillards injury.

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It sucks that he is out and it has a major impact. But it's not the end of the world. Keeping Giannis means they are a playoff team. Swapping Lillard (can't play this year) for Beal makes them even more competitive. If they fine tune their line ups with Giannis playing more Center beside Kuzma, they could be even more dangerous. I'm not saying a contender, but why become horrible to try to rebuild when you can still be a good team? If Giannis wants to stay, they aren't falling off a cliff..

I’m not disagreeing that they need to shed some young guys due to the reasons you outlined.

I just think it’s probably going to be Green, Jabari, and/or Whitmore

Vs Sengun, Amen, Sheppard, and Eason.

I think they will move on to other targets if the price is too high with the Bucks.

I think Houston’s most likely move is to wait and trade for Bane or Booker at the deadline

Austin Reaves could be a solid trade deadline target for Houston as well if the Lakers feel like they need to rebalance their roster w bigs and depth.

The rest of that team around Giannis is shite and getting worse.

Their players are aging out or are injured like Dames. Their “young talent” are guys like Kuzma who shite the bed in the playoffs.


I don’t see Giannis sticking around no matter where he ends up given they have crap and have blown all the assets they can use to make trades.