Randle

Modern 4s will eat him alive long term.

But if his offense improves the pluses wil outweigh the minuses.

He’s more of a 6 man tho. I really don’t see him as a starter unless he starts playing better defense

I love his offensive game.

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We hearty souls who have been foraging atop Julius Randle Hill for years always knew he could score, trample entire defenses on the fast break, and dish canny assists when he wasn't getting a little hoggy. It has been nice seeing him flourish as a 20-point scorer with the New Orleans Pelicans. But there is some trepidation in the Hill community -- more populous now -- given that Randle's ascension on offense has come at the expense of his work on the other end. Some of that is New Orleans shoehorning Randle into defending stretchy power forwards. He just does not have the fast-twitch speed or attention to detail for

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Julius defense

Bumping for the downvotes, haters.

Randle is turnstile.

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Randle hasn't fared much better protecting the rim. He is 451st among 494 players in the defense-only version of ESPN's real plus-minus -- a stat that often makes big men appear better than they are (hi, DeAndre Jordan.) He is dead last among centers.

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He’s not good enough to let him make roster construction harder. 6th man on a reasonable deal or I’m not interested

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It makes no sense to keep an anti-3&D frontcourt player as a core piece. His bully ball and transition offense are great off the bench, but he doesn’t add spacing and he doesn’t defend enough to be a starter.

Yeah to me he's just Lou Williams but a big. Yes i'd love to keep him, but i'm not paying him much more than $10M/yr.

My stance continues to be: Just because you keep a guy, it doesn't mean you have to have him on the roster for the entirety of his next contract. The question shouldn't be what role Randle will be playing in 3 years when we are contenders. Instead, we should be asking whether he will have positive trade value on his next deal and measure that against what else we could do with that cap room and what the trade value of that player would be.

I just find it hard to believe that the Pels are going to find some 20/9 guy dying to play here in free agency that they can sign. Sign Randle because he wants to be here. Keep trying to help him improve his D, and keep the phone lines open to other GMs and eventually move him when you find the right deal.

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Here’s the key to me

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Yeah I agree, I didn’t want to post the whole bit on him.

But when I saw Zach Lowe say the same thing I said in this thread, had to share it lol.

Haters gonna hate I guess.(Hi Shame!)

Randle is Boogie Lite, but good 4s are going to light his arse up.

Porzingis if healthy will torch the current guys next year. Just another good front court player in the SW this team will have to face 4 times a year.

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I just find it hard to believe that the Pels are going to find some 20/9 guy dying to play here in free agency that they can sign. Sign Randle because he wants to be here. Keep trying to help him improve his D, and keep the phone lines open to other GMs and eventually move him when you find the right deal.

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Lost opportunity cost. Is he a better trade asset later versus taking on money for a pick? Do you really think he is going to have a jump on D at this point in his career?

It all depends on the contract for Randle. Pat Riley just said that Miami is trying to clear 2 max spots for 2020. Others are going to be looking to clear space too.

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short term deals for what may appear to be big money help facilitate trades (porter for parker to cite a recent example)

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Cap space works even better because you can get underperforming teams under the tax. When you can send Moore's $9M and take back $25M, that can be pretty valuable.

I am not against re-signing Randle depending on the price and length, but I do believe his high usage and lack of spacing is not conducive to developing the new young guys. On top of that, I think you are going to havce some teams go for it next season and want to shed salary where you can pick up a late first for taking on a contract.