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re: Pre-Melt: The Most likely scenario is that we take someone at 14.

Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:31 am to
Yeah with Zion we’re having trouble trading him for a number 3 pick. I think we as fans really over value him. His value is in the tanker in all honesty. I doubt anyone would offer anything close to boatload of picks for him.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:32 am to
quote:

The Most likely scenario is that we take someone at 14.

Fine with this.

quote:

Or move it in a smaller deal for vet depth


This? Less so.

While veteran help would be nice, we need cheap long term players rather than band aids unless we are going to contend THIS season.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6730 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Yeah with Zion we’re having trouble trading him for a number 3 pick. I think we as fans really over value him. His value is in the tanker in all honesty. I doubt anyone would offer anything close to boatload of picks for him.



I strongly disagree.

I think Zion has top 10 trade value in the league still.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10502 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:33 am to
He was never on the table.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9289 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:35 am to
Ok why would you think that? I mean Charlotte asked for Ingram over him. I keep saying this we as fans value him a lot more than other teams do. His injury issues and even off court stuff really hurt his value.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
412 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:37 am to
We did this already yaz….charlotte asked for bi because it was known that Zion isn’t on table
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9289 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:38 am to
If you still believe there wasn’t active discussion about Zion this past week for Scoot man Griff really has you guys fooled. He was never formally in an offer that doesn’t equal he wasn’t discussed.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
412 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:40 am to
Yes there were discussion and charlotte got shot down…then links to bi start rising
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9289 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:40 am to
Yeah I know and Im telling you they discussed talking about trading him for Scoot. Regardless, I don’t understand why people assume Zion has this high trade value in the league.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10502 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:41 am to
It wasn't, it all started with shams suggesting Zion and it fueled the fire from there. There were nothing to indicate he was discussed apart from the media playing fantasy trade scenarios.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
412 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:42 am to
Ur twisting it again bro….yea Zions trade value his fallen…and pels aren’t willing to give him away at that value
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:48 am to
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I doubt anyone would offer anything close to boatload of picks for him.


I wouldn't be too quick to think this. GM's get enamored with certain guys. I can see Zion being one of those pretty easily
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6730 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:49 am to
Zion is a household name and was in MVP conversations six months ago.

He singlehandedly beat Jokic and Denver and then Embiid.

His trajectory was to top 5 NBA player.

If you asked NBA media types in December would you trade Zion for Scoot Freaking Miller, the entire league would laugh their arse off.

What's happened since then.

Zion pulled a hamstring twice and banged some sluts.

He didn't wave guns like Ja or tear an Achilles or blow an ACL.

He has shown he's naive and dumb and immature.

So has Ja. Why isn't he in trade talks for Scoot?

Zion is better than Ja and his idiocy won't get him killed at least.

People thinking Zion's value is tanked is living in the moment.

If he was 32 yeah. He's 22 and a generational talent.

He's worth a hell of a lot more than Scoot Henderson.

One healthy stretch next season and you could get one of the greatest hauls of all time.

Selling low is short term and stupid.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
412 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:50 am to
I wouldn’t be coming at u again if not for this…
quote:

Yeah with Zion we’re having trouble trading him for a number 3 pick.


There’s no doubt in my mind that blazers and dame would take a zion for #3 kind of package…if offered
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 10:58 am
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6730 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:53 am to
I can't believe I'm knighting for Zion.

I don't even like him.

I am not opposed to trading him. But it better be for a HAUL.

Like Scoot, several firsts and swaps. Nothing less.

I'm not even a big believer that his career will last that long.

But the NBA is all about potential and his potential is top 2-3 in the entire NBA still at 22.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52692 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:56 am to
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So has Ja. Why isn't he in trade talks for Scoot?
well that team actually wins games
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9289 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:56 am to
“He singlehandedly beat Jokic and Denver and then Embiid. “
- what in a regular season game?? Come on man?

Ja has actually been on thecourt and played for much longer periods if time. Been to playoffs couple of times as well. Comparing him to Zion is silly.

Its not December, he played 29 games- you’re acting like he won the MVP anf beat Jokic/Embiid in the playoffs. He had a great December, beat thosr guys in a meaningless regular season game and then got injured on a hammy which he couldn’t fully recover from him to even make the play in.

Well in the moment, Zions value is in the tanker. Will it change maybe but we dont know cause he cant stay healthy.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
412 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:58 am to
quote:

I can't believe I'm knighting for Zion.


Haha I know right same here
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9289 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:59 am to
Theres no doubt in your mind? Do you know the blazers gm personally? Its those kind of statements bro that to even argue with someone is silly.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9289 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:04 am to
Off topic. I know people hate MM tweets- but someone asked why the local pel guys have almost a gag order? Because again it seems like stuff has slowed down from the local pel guys.

MM responded the gag order has nothing to do with the draft all he will say.

Again I completely understand the MM hate here. But maybe something is brewing.
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