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Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:37 am to Soggymoss
Who is getting BI in this trade?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:41 am to PELsu
quote:Trae Young took Huerter/Capela/Bogdanovic/Hunter/Collins/Reddish to a Conference Finals.
Trae Young was 43% from the field, and a bigger defensive liability than anything we have on our current roster. You just can’t win with that. Not anything of substance.
Not even saying he's the guy I want us to target, but you are going to have a hard time arguing that the ATL core I just listed is better than the Pels cored he'd be added to.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
How do we get Trae AND Mobley?
Easy, I laid out a mock trade the other day that gives Atlanta the opportunity to open a max slot a year from now
Cleveland: BI, Cam Johnson, all the Brooklyn picks
Brooklyn: Mitchell(gets to NY where he wants to be), Nance
Atlanta: Simmons, all the Pels picks
Pels: Trae, Mobley
So basically BI and Nance out with 6 1sts, Trae and Mobley in
Cleveland gets BI for Mobley straight up without having to take Simmons
Cam Johnson and all Brooklyn picks for Mitchell
Atlanta gets a flyer on Simmons and 6 1st rounders for Trae while opening a max contract slot the following season
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:43 am to Soggymoss
quote:
BI and Nance out with Trae and Mobley in works salary wise
We would have to send out way more to get both of those guys.
We'd def have to have CJ going out I would think, at least 1 young guy, and what? 3-5 picks?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I feel like you've missed a change in Trae's game this season.
A guy who can run an offense and not just hog the ball.
Trae's usage this season - 30.5
Zion's usage this season - 29.7
quote:If you don't think or realize how many easy looks Zion would get from Trae passes, then you're either just not aware of Trae's offensive game or not even trying to have a rational discussion.
From hogging the ball. How does that mesh with Zion?
quote:We have a MUCH better core than the team Trae dragged to the conference finals too, so...
Trae failed with Murray being the real point guard who would compensate defensively. We don't have anything like a Murray to pair with Trae.
quote:He's not a #1. He would be coming here to be a #2.
Then why are his teams routinely terrible?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:45 am to Soggymoss
quote:
all the Brooklyn picks
Take a look at the Nets future draft pick situation
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:47 am to Soggymoss
Brook has no picks
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:48 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Take a look at the Nets future draft pick situation
It’s definitely not ideal, but I believe they have 3 trade able 1sts
Knicks are reportedly not going to pursue Mitchell since they have Brunson, and not many teams will give up anything for Mitchell knowing he won’t stay after next season, so a young Cam Johnson to take Mobley’s spot at the 4 and BI along with the couple picks and not having to take back Simmons is not a bad deal for them.
ETA: Actually I was wrong, Brooklyn has 6 trade able 1sts
They can trade two in 27, a 28, two in 29 and a 30
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Man, you're going way out of your way to not even try to have a good debate here.
So we're running out Jose and Trae?
Do better.
Trae
Herb
Trey
Zion
Center
Again, either you're knowledge is severely lacking or you need to do better. Which one is it? You KNOW it has to be one, figure that shite out before posting.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:49 am to shel311
SFP was being intentionally obtuse there, he was doing his SFP thing.
The next comment was going to be that Trae isn't a PG and that Dejounte was the PG, so Trae would be taking the place of Herb in the starting lineup, so who are you starting him next to?
The next comment was going to be that Trae isn't a PG and that Dejounte was the PG, so Trae would be taking the place of Herb in the starting lineup, so who are you starting him next to?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:50 am to 50_Tiger
quote:That sounds like a very small issue. You can add Nance and they can add a small piece back. You can add a couple of end of bench guys like Liddell to get where you need to and the receiving team can keep or waive them. $5mil I imagine would not hold up a deal.
You need 5 additional million to match Trae's salary. Who are we sending out with BI?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:51 am to shel311
quote:
If you don't think or realize how many easy looks Zion would get from Trae passes, then you're either just not aware of Trae's offensive game or not even trying to have a rational discussion.
Yeah, just the Trae/Zion P&R’s that Trae loves to spam against opponents alone would be a HUGE cheat code and exactly what we’ve been begging for.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
quote:No doubt
SFP was being intentionally obtuse there, he was doing his SFP thing.
He had to create a scenario in his head where CJ and Jose would play shooting guard, and not Herb, the guy who has played shooting guard for us for 3 seasons, and allowing us to finally get the other guy, Trey, that we've been trying to get in the starting lineup for 2 seasons.
He had to pretend ALL of that didn't exist to make his Trae/Jose or Trae/CJ failed point.
It was just awful work by him.
quote:Probably, but that would be just another dumb argument
The next comment was going to be that Trae isn't a PG and that Dejounte was the PG, so Trae would be taking the place of Herb in the starting lineup, so who are you starting him next to?
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:57 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Brook has no picks
See my post above, they actually have 5 or 6 they can trade
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:58 am to Soggymoss
I don't like Trae at all.
However, I like Ingram even less...
However, I like Ingram even less...
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:02 am to saints5021
I think Mikal Bridges is also attainable now straight up too. He had a down year in Brooklyn and I don’t mind having another 3&D player. However it is Brooklyn and they overrate their players.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:03 am to Soggymoss
quote:
Bruh, is it that hard to understand?
Trae
Herb
Trey
Zion
Mobley
Bench
CJ
This, would never happen.
CJ is not going to come of the bench.
and if you're going to relegate him to that, you might as well just let Hawkins take his place. If CJ isn't in the closing 5, then what's he on this team for making $30M+?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:04 am to shel311
You’re not getting a bonafide superstar player for BI. It’s gonna be some high level all star capable players with red flags like Trae or KAT. I’d take a chance with either. I’d be okay with trading BI for Mobley but then you lose offensive creation and need to replace that elsewhere.
Feels risky to trade a player who creates his own offense for a guy who can’t. Especially when you don’t have many guys on the team who can create for themselves.
Feels risky to trade a player who creates his own offense for a guy who can’t. Especially when you don’t have many guys on the team who can create for themselves.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:04 am to Soggymoss
quote:
See my post above, they actually have 5 or 6 they can trade
Not trying to be combative but just curious your thought is that Clev would be okay with waiting 3 years on a trade return?
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