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re: Pels should draft Tyler Smith. = Trey Murphy 2.0
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:16 am to Ijuschill1
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:16 am to Ijuschill1
quote:His shot does need refinement, but he likely would have a year off to work on it. He also is a very good FT shooter, so there is potential. He appears to be very good in the PNR. I think Giddey is a decent comp for him. May be a bit of a stretch to have Bronny ahead of him at this point (Bronny may improve at some point).
Man just watching Topic highlights, instantly you notice the EXTREME lack of NBA talent that he's going against. His drives are ALL below the rim finishes. He would get alot of those shots blocked on ball or by helpside defense, easily I might add. Can't shoot and has a push shot that needs alot of refinement, hence 30% from 3pt on the season and that's with NO one usually near him when shooting.
I watched more of Topic and man Bronny better than this dude. Epic fail. Don't even get me started on how he can't guard NBA level talent.
Recognize the competition he is facing or lack thereof, this dude is so Div.-II or NAIA caliber. Lol. shite funny af that he getting Top 5 mentions. He won't be picked until 22 or later, book it.
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:37 pm to Ijuschill1
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Robert Horry
Perhaps one of the 5 greatest clutch shooters ever-I'll take it!
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:51 pm to Ijuschill1
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Brmark... What center you actually get excited for in this draft? I don't even like Clingman tbh and they got him Top 5. Very, very weak big man draft. All time weak. Every prospect has serious flags and the higher the projection, the more I don't like the big being considered and talked about.
I really haven't looked hard at the draft yet. Honestly I expect us to trade the pick. It is a weak draft and we have a lot of young talent to develop already.
I just do not see us contributing to us next season. He's not a big and he plays small. There is always a chance something flips and he develops, but a lot of that is instinctual. Do you really think he takes minutes from someone like Daniels or Marshall (of he resigns)?
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I could be wrong but dude will be more valuable than all the other bigs picked ahead of him, when it comes to that 2nd contract.
I am excited to see more analysis, so I appreciate the information. I'll take your word for it. I just like my bigs tougher and thicker. We already have a glut of wings. We just lived through the Hayes experience, so maybe I'm a bit jaded from that. I'll try to be more positive.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:10 pm to Ijuschill1
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While speaking on it, Darron Holmes don't really do it for me either. Is he a key piece on a championship contender off the bench??? Naaahhh. Cmon man. Dude will be a journeyman at best. I'm passing on him too!
we're picking 21st in a terrible draft.
If we get a guy who can play legit minutes in the NBA, it's a successful draft.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to Ijuschill1
He has a smooth stroke as a lefty but is a much different shot maker than trey.
The way they get their shots is completely different.
The way they get their shots is completely different.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:52 pm to Louisianabound88
Holmes would be nice.
I want Devin carter tho.
I like ware too but he is so boom or bust.
I want Devin carter tho.
I like ware too but he is so boom or bust.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:56 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:At 21, a boom or bust is fine if that is what's available.
Holmes would be nice.
I want Devin carter tho.
I like ware too but he is so boom or bust.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:18 pm to NOSHAU
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If the Pelicans don’t feel strongly about a player at No. 21, the team could trade the pick to acquire future second-round draft capital, league sources said. The Pelicans right now don’t hold a second-round pick until 2030. They were forced to fork over four second-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs so they could get off Devonte’ Graham’s contract before the 2023 trade deadline.
From Clark’s article today. Man, it would kind of suck trading our first rounder for a bunch of seconds to replace our seconds we used to unload Devonte who shouldn’t have been signed in the first place.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:36 pm to Pels_Yaz
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From Clark’s article today. Man, it would kind of suck trading our first rounder for a bunch of seconds to replace our seconds we used to unload Devonte who shouldn’t have been signed in the first place.
Gave up a 1st that turned into Mark Williams to sign Graham then traded 4 2nds to dump him. Just all time asset mismanagement from Griff.
^^^ That’s the guy we’re supposed to trust to navigate this crucial offseason lol
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:48 pm to Pels_Yaz
Considering that you can buy 2nds for cash on draft night, I don’t see the purpose of turning a 1st into 2nds absent other pieces moving.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:52 pm to teke184
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Considering that you can buy 2nds for cash on draft night, I don’t see the purpose of turning a 1st into 2nds absent other pieces moving.
Unless you don’t want to spend the cash. I think it would be dumb personally to trade the 1st for a bunch of 2nds.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:01 pm to Pels_Yaz
Effectively selling the pick would be a George Shinn move.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:30 pm to teke184
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I don’t see the purpose of turning a 1st into 2nds absent other pieces moving.
Because
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you can buy 2nds for cash on draft night
That also means you can sell 2nds, which the Pels might want to do in the future if they fire Willie next season with a year left on his deal.
I'm not saying I condone that course of action, just that I would not be surprised if that happened.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:36 pm to Ijuschill1
I like Tyler Smith as a prospect too and he is from New Orleans. But, he's not Trey Murphy. I liken him more as a young Chris Bosh or John Collins.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:50 pm to TigerinATL
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That also means you can sell 2nds, which the Pels might want to do in the future if they fire Willie next season with a year left on his deal.
Yeah which is also the third coach Griffin has had. Griffin really needs a strong offseason here.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 3:11 am to Pels_Yaz
Well, it's Tyler, Devin Carter, Jared McCain, Bub Carrington, Ron Holland and maybe Ware that I would even feel good about drafting and the potential thereof, respectively.
If we can't get 1 of the above-mentioned, trade the pick in a package that brings back what we need.
If we can't get 1 of the above-mentioned, trade the pick in a package that brings back what we need.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:56 am to Ijuschill1
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Well, it's Tyler, Devin Carter, Jared McCain, Bub Carrington, Ron Holland and maybe Ware that I would even feel good about drafting and the potential thereof, respectively.
Absolutely love bub carrington but he's picking up a lot of steam, I doubt he'd be there at 21 but if he is then I'm sprinting to the podium
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:41 am to teke184
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Effectively selling the pick would be a George Shinn move.
Bro, do you even understand the repeater tax? Gayle is completely different than Shinn, bro. She moved the practice facility from the Alario center. She'll pay the tax for a contender. Trust me, bro.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:57 am to Balsamic_duck
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Absolutely love bub carrington but he's picking up a lot of steam, I doubt he'd be there at 21 but if he is then I'm sprinting to the podium
Carrington seems to have the it factor for me. He has just enough athleticism and burst in the open court to put teams on their heels in transition. His pull up shot on the break or when probing the paint off of PnR is NBA ready. Not so good yet in catch and shoot situations, but his mechanics suggest he will refine his shot and improve considerably. He is a solid passer and he doesn't turn the ball over. He makes good reads in most situations and he sets his teammates up for open shots routinely.
On D, he fights hard and competes on that end. He fights over screens and guards in an aggressive manner. Moves his feet well and sits in a good defensive posture. Solid in his help defense and understands defensive concepts and principles.
Bub gives off Tyrese Maxey vibes. Not the athlete that Tyrese is but he forces the action on the break like Maxey in getting to the rim and is a solid finisher. At times he settles for his pull up jumper too much, but it's his strongest skill that has developed in his game thus far.
I like Bub's game and can see him carving out a nice NBA career as a backup PG. 7th man type player on a good team. He's young, only 19, so his upside is promising. I would draft Bub over Topic and it's not even close for me. Only Devin Carter and Jared McCain I have ahead of him in the draft for PG's. He's smart and I could see him getting regular rotation minutes by the end of his rookie campaign.
If he's still on the board at 21, I take him and possibly have my backcourt of the future with Hawk at the SG spot. They would compliment each other well offensively.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:10 pm to Ijuschill1
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I like Bub's game and can see him carving out a nice NBA career as a backup PG. 7th man type player on a good team. He's young, only 19, so his upside is promising. I would draft Bub over Topic and it's not even close for me. Only Devin Carter and Jared McCain I have ahead of him in the draft for PG's. He's smart and I could see him getting regular rotation minutes by the end of his rookie campaign.
I’d have Devin Carter over those 2 but I think Bub has drawn even with Jared McCain for me.
I agree with you, Bub can fill a backup PG role for us as a rookie. I don’t think he’s a guy that needs the G league to develop.
He’s also the youngest college player in the draft. He displayed an advanced off the dribble game as an 18 year old freshman. That’s impressive stuff. He also has a good frame, I think he measured 6’5 with a 6’8 wingspan. He wasn’t a good defender in college but he has the size to become one
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