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re: Pels get the #1 pick, who would you want to draft?
Posted on 5/13/22 at 9:57 am to CP3forMVP
Posted on 5/13/22 at 9:57 am to CP3forMVP
Rudy Gobert is a better comparison on the defensive side for Chet than Bam and JJJ imo.
I have almost no doubt Chet will be a very good defender in NBA.
IQ is very good. Effort is nice. Wingspan is huge.
Chet must take weight ofc but he has the fundamentals to be a very good defender.
And he isn't offensively bad either.
Wait and see
I have almost no doubt Chet will be a very good defender in NBA.
IQ is very good. Effort is nice. Wingspan is huge.
Chet must take weight ofc but he has the fundamentals to be a very good defender.
And he isn't offensively bad either.
Wait and see
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 10:14 am to nicj4
quote:
Rudy Gobert is a better comparison on the defensive side for Chet than Bam and JJJ imo.
what? not even close.
Rudy Gobert weighs 260lbs and is probably one of the top 5 strongest centers in the league. Chet will literally be the weakest forward/center in the league outside of that stick figure in OKC.
I do'nt think you guys are realizing how small Chet is. 195lb is tiny at 7'. tiny. even if he put on 20lbs, he's still one of the lightest 7' players in the league.
Look i agree that his grit and toughness is something that will without a doubt help him succeed, but....
HE CANNOT PLAY THE 5, EVEN SMALL BALL 5 AT 195LBS. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
If he's going to stay 210lb or smaller, then he better work on his foot speed b/c all he's going to be doing is guarding perimeter players, and i think he can do a great job at that if he can stay quick enough to recover when beat b/c his length will still be able to bother people at the rim even when he's beat.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 10:32 am to nicj4
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Rudy Gobert is a better comparison on the defensive side for Chet than Bam and JJJ imo.
I do think Gobert is a better comparison BUT with the caveat is he isn’t Gobert. Not even close. Gobert is a rock inside. There are things that Gobert does on the defensive end that Chet will probably never meet because of his weight and strength, but at the same time every year during playoff time the conversation of Gobert’s true impact is questioned because teams can negate what he’s the best at and attack him in areas he may not excel at. I think Chet has some of the same concerns.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 10:51 am to TeddyPadillac
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Chet will literally be the weakest forward/center in the league outside of that stick figure in OKC
I already compared Chet with Pokusevski on a topic before. I'm right with you Chet has Poku profile (especially offensively) . However Poku haven't really same defensive playstyle and potential than Chet right now.
I compared Chet with Gobert cause both have similar height, wingspan, defensive playstyle and same lateral quickness issue...
But yes, Chet will be very probably Poku in NBA (+ or -, i dont know).
Just to say Chet isn't Bam and JJJ in all the case...
Posted on 5/13/22 at 2:02 pm to nicj4
i remember when anthony davis was compared to marcus camby. that's all.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 6:40 pm to Soggymoss
Yeah, put me on the Jabari Smith train as well.
Love Chet's potential as a prospect but I think Jabari is going to be a killer.
Jabari
Chet
Banchero
Love Chet's potential as a prospect but I think Jabari is going to be a killer.
Jabari
Chet
Banchero
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:41 am to SulphursFinest
This would be a fantastic problem to have, but if we did win the lottery, would the #1 pick's salary for next season put us into the tax?
Obviously, we won't start the season in the tax but just wondering if we'll "have" to make a move to ditch a bit of salary if that happened.
Obviously, we won't start the season in the tax but just wondering if we'll "have" to make a move to ditch a bit of salary if that happened.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:42 am to shel311
Does selling the 2nd round picks for cash considerations help?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:43 am to SulphursFinest
Chet, Banchero, Sharpe, Ivey
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:44 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:05 pm to Pelefraan 1
I’d be curious how many people would have different answers assuming Zion returns fully healthy vs Zion never returns fully healthy. Assuming Zion is healthy Jabari Smith is my number 1. If zion were not in the picture going forward I’d take Banchero.
A CJ, Herb, Ingram, Bachero, JV is a pretty solid non zion team to roll with the next couple years.
A CJ, Herb, Ingram, Bachero, JV is a pretty solid non zion team to roll with the next couple years.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:14 pm to shel311
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This would be a fantastic problem to have, but if we did win the lottery, would the #1 pick's salary for next season put us into the tax?
No, pretty sure we would still barely be under the tax.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:21 pm to Pelefraan 1
For the record: I think Jabari is the safest pick...the most talented, and might well end up the BEST pick long term...of the top 3 of Jabari, Banchero and Chet. Still...for reasons I won't go into, if forced to choose between Jabari & Banchero, I would take Banchero.
And even stranger, given the Pels' current roster...& today's NBA "game"...I would take the riskiest of all 3, Chet, in order to possibly make the leap, from just being a playoff team...to being a SERIOUS contender to win it all.
And even stranger, given the Pels' current roster...& today's NBA "game"...I would take the riskiest of all 3, Chet, in order to possibly make the leap, from just being a playoff team...to being a SERIOUS contender to win it all.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:25 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Not if they got #1. Based on the current cap and tax estimates, the #1 pick would put us about $3 over the tax.
No, pretty sure we would still barely be under the tax.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:03 pm to ned nederlander
quote:
I’d be curious how many people would have different answers assuming Zion returns fully healthy vs Zion never returns fully healthy. Assuming Zion is healthy Jabari Smith is my number 1. If zion were not in the picture going forward I’d take Banchero.
If you're picking top 3, then it would be beyond dumb to make the pick based on anyone on the current roster. You expect an allstar level talent with a top 3 pick, not a role player to fit with Zion.
Imagine if the Warriors had taken Lamelo instead of Wiseman at #2. Taking a C just b/c they didn't have one, with the #2 pick, was a stupid decision.
The Raptors had the #4 pick and took a SF/PF, even though they already had Siakam and OG that fit that exact position, and Scottie Barnes won Rookie of the Year.
Even if you're picking 8th, i'd still say it's dumb to consider the current roster, but i could see it coming into play a little bit.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:12 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
You expect an allstar level talent with a top 3 pick, not a role player to fit with Zion.
Perfect
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:16 pm to ned nederlander
quote:
I’d be curious how many people would have different answers assuming Zion returns fully healthy vs Zion never returns fully healthy. Assuming Zion is healthy Jabari Smith is my number 1. If zion were not in the picture going forward I’d take Banchero.
Personally, at #1 I'm taking the guy that tops my board and don't really even consider fit with Zion. I think the only time I don't take BPA is if I have say Jokic at C and the #1 guy is a true C similar to Jokic, or PG in that same vein.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:19 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:Basically this
Personally, at #1 I'm taking the guy that tops my board and don't really even consider fit with Zion. I think the only time I don't take BPA is if I have say Jokic at C and the #1 guy is a true C similar to Jokic, or PG in that same vein.
And if that #1 is just a sure fire #1, elite/generational type dude, then you take him anyway and figure it out later. I don't think this draft has that 1 sure fire dude though.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:20 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:
Personally, at #1 I'm taking the guy that tops my board and don't really even consider fit with Zion. I think the only time I don't take BPA is if I have say Jokic at C and the #1 guy is a true C similar to Jokic, or PG in that same vein.
Only if one guy has totally separated themselves from everyone else would you not consider fit.
Banchero wouldn't be in my top 3. Possibly not top 4.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:30 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I disagree.
Only if one guy has totally separated themselves from everyone else would you not consider fit.
When you draft dudes, it's not for the next season or even the next. It's for the long term future, 4,5+ years out, at which point your team will look entirely different.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:34 pm to shel311
Obviously, but you missed the first part.
If you have guys rated evenly, fit is something you consider. Among other things.
I PERSONALLY don't have Banchero rated as high as Jabari or Chet.
However, with the right team, he could be really great. I don't see us as that team.
If you have guys rated evenly, fit is something you consider. Among other things.
I PERSONALLY don't have Banchero rated as high as Jabari or Chet.
However, with the right team, he could be really great. I don't see us as that team.
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