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re: Pelicans, Kings, and Blazers agree to Tyreke Evans/Withey trade

Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by squidburger
Sweden
Member since Jan 2013
200 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:08 pm to
He's probably worth the money suggested when you compare to the kind of deals Iggy, Thiago Splitter etc got. So they will match IMO, hoping for a S&T here.

When is the next lockout scheduled?

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130325 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:09 pm to
If Demps put a large trade kicker in,it would make it difficult for him to trade. So
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13142 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:10 pm to
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Although the Pelicans technically are still waiting for Evans to verbally commit to signing the offer sheet, sources close to the situation regard that as "an inevitability" by week's end. Evans then would formally sign the four-year, $44 million offer sheet on July 10, when the league's annual moratorium on signings and trades is lifted. Sacramento would have three days to either match or pass on the offer.


The Pelicans/Evans are purposefully not agreeing so they can guarantee that he doesn't end up a King one way or the other, leaving the door open for a S&T I think.

Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:10 pm to
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large trade kicker in,it


Yeah I could see them doing that, it was rumored.

PHX tried something similar with the 4th year player option.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:10 pm to
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We can do a S&T until he signs the offer sheet.
Let's hope Demps does a sign and trade then.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:11 pm to
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If Demps put a large trade kicker in,it would make it difficult for him to trade. So


But how big of a kicker can he put in? Even if the kings have to wait a whole year before being able to trade him, that's better than losing him for nothing and not using the remaining cap space for anything else.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:11 pm to
This is why I don't like going after RFA. The Hornets got burnt with Mo Pete because of it that one year and we saw how it worked out for PHX.
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

But how big of a kicker can he put in? Even if the kings have to wait a whole year before being able to trade him, that's better than losing him for nothing and not using the remaining cap space for anything else.



Well he automatically gets a one year no trade clause I believe if SAC matches. Like EG has.

Nothing to stop Dell from adding no trade years though. (I think)
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:12 pm to
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I really dont see their logic of not matching at this point.

They want to rebuild around Cousins and McLemore
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:12 pm to
Please do a S&T

Ill miss gravy though...
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:13 pm to
Nevermind. Can't put a no trade clause...

"A "no-trade" clause prevents the team from trading the player without the player's consent. A no-trade clause can be negotiated into a new contract1 if the player has been in the NBA for at least eight seasons, and has played for the team with which he is signing for at least four seasons. They don't have to be the four most recent seasons -- for example, Horace Grant received a no-trade clause from Orlando when he signed with them in 2001. He had played for Orlando for the requisite four seasons, but had played for Seattle and Los Angeles in the interim. Very few players actually have one of these negotiated no-trade provisions (currently only Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki have them).
"
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56581 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:14 pm to
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Ill miss gravy though...

you'll get over it
Posted by LockdownDefense
Member since Aug 2008
4441 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:17 pm to
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Ill miss gravy though...


To end up with a starting 5 that are all either legit all-stars or considered to be that level of talent?

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:17 pm to
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But how big of a kicker can he put in?


I'm pretty sure Josh Smith who had a similar sized contract had a 15% trade kicker that may not have stopped Smith from being traded by itself, but made trading Smith much more complicated and it was brought up multiple times for the 2 years Smith was unsuccessfully on the trade block.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:18 pm to
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They want to rebuild around Cousins and McLemore


My point is, they can either keep him with whatever trade restrictions he has and wait to trade him when those restrictions are over and get real assets for him, or they can let him go for nothing and waste all that cap space. A lot of this does depend on the type of restrictions Dell put into the offer. He very well may have put enough restrictions in it to where the Kings wouldn't think it's worth matching. But maybe Dell didn't put that many restrictions in because he's afraid of shooting himself in the foot if a great deal comes along (in the future) that involves Evans.

Of course they could do a S&T. And that is what I think will happen. But if Reke signs that offer sheet, then a S&T is out the window and I think the Kings would be stupid not to match. Of course, it is the Kings...
Posted by gatorhater211
Member since Oct 2007
1166 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:19 pm to
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I'm pretty sure Josh Smith who had a similar sized contract had a 15% trade kicker that may not have stopped Smith from being traded by itself, but made trading Smith much more complicated and it was brought up multiple times for the 2 years Smith was unsuccessfully on the trade block.


Great insight from the almighty Dell

ETA: Speaking of Josh Smith, why don't the Kings go after him and forget about Reke
This post was edited on 7/3/13 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure Josh Smith who had a similar sized contract had a 15% trade kicker that may not have stopped Smith from being traded by itself, but made trading Smith much more complicated and it was brought up multiple times for the 2 years Smith was unsuccessfully on the trade block.


This is what makes me think Dell may not have put in such a big restriction in the offer. Because you never know what the future holds, and you want to have the ability to trade any of your players on your roster if the right deal comes up. This doesn't necessarily apply to the superstars though.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:23 pm to
Khaaa khaaaa motherfrickers

Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:31 pm to
I want to get excited, but I just can't help shake the feeling the Kings will match.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/3/13 at 7:32 pm to
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I want to get excited, but I just can't help shake the feeling the Kings will match.
I praying for a S&T announcement before the 10th
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