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Payton/Randle introduction presser
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:57 am
New Orleans Pelicans @PelicansNBA 4 minutes ago
Welcome home @elfrid and @J30_RANDLE! #Pelicans
Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer 38 minutes ago
Julius Randle on coming to New Orleans: "This was the best fit for me and the best spot... there wasn't really a better fit than coming here."
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 38 minutes ago
Randle said he reached out to AD and then said AD called him three times "to get the job done"
Oleh Kosel @OlehKosel 37 minutes ago
Elfrid Payton maintains New Orleans was the best fit -- it wasn't just about coming home.
Kumar @FearTheBrown 37 minutes ago
Dell: "Elfrid was our first meeting. We've been studying him for a long time."
Payton says this was the best fit for him, coming home wasn't much of a factor. Just fit.
Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer 34 minutes ago
Julius Randle on his perspective of being part of the future in New Orleans with #Pelicans: "I want this to be home, and a long-term thing. This is a group that is young, energetic and can really grow together."
Kumar @FearTheBrown 31 minutes ago
Dell on the front court: "Their games all fit together and enhance each other. All three of those guys rotating those minutes is going to be a problem for other teams next year"
Will Guillory @WillGuillory 28 minutes ago
Elfrid Payton on cutting his hair: "I was just ready. ... A lot of people were surprised. A lot of people were disappointed."
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 27 minutes ago
Demps said he can feel new energy in the building with Randle and Payton in the fold, hoping to build off last year's playoffs.
Kumar @FearTheBrown 27 minutes ago
Dell stresses that they tried to acquire Elfrid before and that they have been studying him for a while
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 25 minutes ago
Randle said he went through individual drills with Darren Erman already, the first time he's done so in four NBA seasons.
Brett Martel @brettmartel
#Pelicans GM Demps says Randle, Payton fit the identity the club established -- and liked -- "at the end of last season." Emphasizes their youth, ability to play up-tempo and play defense.
Welcome home @elfrid and @J30_RANDLE! #Pelicans
Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer 38 minutes ago
Julius Randle on coming to New Orleans: "This was the best fit for me and the best spot... there wasn't really a better fit than coming here."
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 38 minutes ago
Randle said he reached out to AD and then said AD called him three times "to get the job done"
Oleh Kosel @OlehKosel 37 minutes ago
Elfrid Payton maintains New Orleans was the best fit -- it wasn't just about coming home.
Kumar @FearTheBrown 37 minutes ago
Dell: "Elfrid was our first meeting. We've been studying him for a long time."
Payton says this was the best fit for him, coming home wasn't much of a factor. Just fit.
Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer 34 minutes ago
Julius Randle on his perspective of being part of the future in New Orleans with #Pelicans: "I want this to be home, and a long-term thing. This is a group that is young, energetic and can really grow together."
Kumar @FearTheBrown 31 minutes ago
Dell on the front court: "Their games all fit together and enhance each other. All three of those guys rotating those minutes is going to be a problem for other teams next year"
Will Guillory @WillGuillory 28 minutes ago
Elfrid Payton on cutting his hair: "I was just ready. ... A lot of people were surprised. A lot of people were disappointed."
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 27 minutes ago
Demps said he can feel new energy in the building with Randle and Payton in the fold, hoping to build off last year's playoffs.
Kumar @FearTheBrown 27 minutes ago
Dell stresses that they tried to acquire Elfrid before and that they have been studying him for a while
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 25 minutes ago
Randle said he went through individual drills with Darren Erman already, the first time he's done so in four NBA seasons.
Brett Martel @brettmartel
#Pelicans GM Demps says Randle, Payton fit the identity the club established -- and liked -- "at the end of last season." Emphasizes their youth, ability to play up-tempo and play defense.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:02 pm to TigerinATL
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Julius Randle on his perspective of being part of the future in New Orleans with #Pelicans: "I want this to be home, and a long-term thing.
This is big
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:10 pm to gregory6592
It'll just depend on if he's okay taking $10M for another season before we can get his Bird Rights and sign him long term (assuming he plays well). Hopefully that's the case.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:10 pm to gregory6592
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Julius Randle on his perspective of being part of the future in New Orleans with #Pelicans: "I want this to be home, and a long-term thing.
Well, we aren't paying $65M for our front court next year, so youre auditioning with Niko to see which one of you fits better and we'll likely decide on one of you, not both, unless you both want to get long term contracts that pay you around $12M/yr.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:31 pm to LesGeaux45
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It'll just depend on if he's okay taking $10M for another season before we can get his Bird Rights and sign him long term (assuming he plays well). Hopefully that's the case.
Not necessarily. If he plays to a level that is obviously better than that, I don't think they'll bet on landing a free agent better than Randle. If they need to use cap space to keep him, I'm sure they will.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:44 pm to Epic Cajun
IMO teams that have an identity will benefit greatly from much of the players taking one-year deals. It gives teams like the Pelicans a chance to audition players that will fit best, which will maximize the dollars we spend. Which is one of the main reasons I’m excited about Payton and Randle, and less than thrilled about Schroder.
A team trying to figure out who they are or a team without direction, I think will have a tougher time due to that uncertainty. Next summer I believe many players will sign multi-year contracts. And do you think they’d rather go to a place with an established plan in place or gamble on an unknown like Brooklyn or the Clippers? If it was me, I’d take a long look at an organization that knows where it’s heading. And I think the Pels know where they want to be. Many we won’t land a Kawhi but I cannot imagine we will be as bad a destination as most people believe
A team trying to figure out who they are or a team without direction, I think will have a tougher time due to that uncertainty. Next summer I believe many players will sign multi-year contracts. And do you think they’d rather go to a place with an established plan in place or gamble on an unknown like Brooklyn or the Clippers? If it was me, I’d take a long look at an organization that knows where it’s heading. And I think the Pels know where they want to be. Many we won’t land a Kawhi but I cannot imagine we will be as bad a destination as most people believe
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:45 pm to Epic Cajun
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If they need to use cap space to keep him, I'm sure they will.
Yeah, if #DoItBiggish works then maybe the answer is keep it together and cycle through the best band aids your exceptions can find each year at SF. The team had the #5 DRtg post Boogie even with Moore getting so many minutes at SF.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:46 pm to Epic Cajun
I personally like the idea of having AD/Niko/Randle as our 3 big man rotation, with a 4th big on a vet minimum and a young guy like Diallo, even though i've always been of the belief that you shoud'nt be sinking so much money into the front court.
We havent' seen them play yet, but i think that rotation will work out great b/c of Niko and Randles ability to switch on defense, as well as handle the better big on the opposing team so AD can guard the weak one and roam the paint. When AD gets to do that is when our defense is at it's best.
If we do commit to that front court and paying them, that means we likely don't have the ability to ever get a big time SF, or even a PG in FA in the future unless we trade for them, and we can't really do that before the offseason b/c then we don't have the ability to sign both Niko and Randle.
This is where making a trade for Schroeder/Prince could be very beneficial. Schroeder isnt' ideal, as i think Payton is more of what we want from the PG position, but if we were able to move forward into the future with this kind of lineup, i think we've got a top 4 team in the west for a few years.
Payton/Schroeder
Jrue/Jackson(hoping he turns out to be something useful)/Moore(or another MLE guy)
Prince/Miller
Niko/Randle/Diallo(or young big)
AD/Okafor(or vet minimum guy)
We havent' seen them play yet, but i think that rotation will work out great b/c of Niko and Randles ability to switch on defense, as well as handle the better big on the opposing team so AD can guard the weak one and roam the paint. When AD gets to do that is when our defense is at it's best.
If we do commit to that front court and paying them, that means we likely don't have the ability to ever get a big time SF, or even a PG in FA in the future unless we trade for them, and we can't really do that before the offseason b/c then we don't have the ability to sign both Niko and Randle.
This is where making a trade for Schroeder/Prince could be very beneficial. Schroeder isnt' ideal, as i think Payton is more of what we want from the PG position, but if we were able to move forward into the future with this kind of lineup, i think we've got a top 4 team in the west for a few years.
Payton/Schroeder
Jrue/Jackson(hoping he turns out to be something useful)/Moore(or another MLE guy)
Prince/Miller
Niko/Randle/Diallo(or young big)
AD/Okafor(or vet minimum guy)
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:55 pm to TeddyPadillac
I go back an forth on Randle’s fit with AD. If you watch Randle, he worked best Brook Lopez on the court. So I think he’ll work really well with a big that’s similar in Niko.
But AD roams. Will they get in each other’s way? Then add Payton who drives to the rim a lot and we might have a party inside the paint at all times
But AD roams. Will they get in each other’s way? Then add Payton who drives to the rim a lot and we might have a party inside the paint at all times
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
We don't need another point guard of that "caliber." Time to let Jackson play extensively this year to begin determining whether he is in future plans before his contract comes up.
Whatever move Dell makes that inches us closer to contender status, MUST be a SF with a serviceable offensive game but exceptional defensively. Any true contender with hopes of beating Warriors, MUST be an exceptional And sound defensive team that guards well in transition.
A long SF that can at least cause Durant to not hit his averages and be able to force him out of his comfort spots is the only way to have a chance.
Whatever move Dell makes that inches us closer to contender status, MUST be a SF with a serviceable offensive game but exceptional defensively. Any true contender with hopes of beating Warriors, MUST be an exceptional And sound defensive team that guards well in transition.
A long SF that can at least cause Durant to not hit his averages and be able to force him out of his comfort spots is the only way to have a chance.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:01 pm to DeionDeion
AD really needs to focus on his range this offseason. He needs to get comfortable shooting 3’s instead of the two dribbles and taking a 23ft pull-up.
He’s got the stroke to be able to hit high 30’s from the perimeter with some focus, he just needs to start doing so and give up the long 2’s.
He’s got the stroke to be able to hit high 30’s from the perimeter with some focus, he just needs to start doing so and give up the long 2’s.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:01 pm to DeionDeion
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I go back an forth on Randle’s fit with AD. If you watch Randle, he worked best Brook Lopez on the court. So I think he’ll work really well with a big that’s similar in Niko.
But AD roams. Will they get in each other’s way? Then add Payton who drives to the rim a lot and we might have a party inside the paint at all times
I think this offense will be elite in transition, but will have to figure some stuff out in half court. Movement without the ball will be key to opening up the paint for scoring at the rim.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:03 pm to Epic Cajun
That’s always been the case, but I agree.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:19 pm to NOFOX
Sure it would be the next step for AD to improve his range. But the question is, do you want AD to change/modify his elite offensive game to accommodate Randle & Payton’s deficiencies or have guys that allow AD to use his best skills to the fullest?
IMO I think AD can play with either Randle or Payton well, but will start running into issues with both of them on the court. Again though I go back and forth with Randle but the issue lessens with 3 others shooter/spacers
IMO I think AD can play with either Randle or Payton well, but will start running into issues with both of them on the court. Again though I go back and forth with Randle but the issue lessens with 3 others shooter/spacers
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:13 pm to DeionDeion
I like the big 3 frontcourt guys, but I just don't see many situations where all 3 can be on the court at the same time. Especially to close out games. I'd rather the money go to a wing, but I can't think of one we can really go get. So its a good year to figure out which one fits better and then let the other shine with the 2nd unit (unless we can get something at the deadline)..
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:15 pm to brmark70816
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I like the big 3 frontcourt guys, but I just don't see many situations where all 3 can be on the court at the same time. Especially to close out games. I'd rather the money go to a wing, but I can't think of one we can really go get. So its a good year to figure out which one fits better and then let the other shine with the 2nd unit (unless we can get something at the deadline)..
Right, I don't think that there will be many situations where it makes sense for all 3 of them to be on the court, but I expect Randle and Mirotic to get around 30 minutes each with AD getting a few more than that.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:54 pm to TigerinATL
I think these days you just start your best 5 to a point.
AD
Jrue
Payton
Randle
Niko
ETA:
I see it differently since we don't have and can't really get an elite wing. I actually really want to see them all out there together.
AD
Jrue
Payton
Randle
Niko
ETA:
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I like the big 3 frontcourt guys, but I just don't see many situations where all 3 can be on the court at the same time.
I see it differently since we don't have and can't really get an elite wing. I actually really want to see them all out there together.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:12 pm to DeionDeion
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Sure it would be the next step for AD to improve his range. But the question is, do you want AD to change/modify his elite offensive game to accommodate Randle & Payton’s deficiencies or have guys that allow AD to use his best skills to the fullest?
AD’s offense and even more so the Pels offense steps up several notches if AD is a legitimate outside threat in combination with what he already does. The coaches have been good about trying to get hi to cut the long twos, but that’s his comfort zone and he reverts to taking way too many of those shots. Even if he is great at them, he’s so much better off taking a couple steps back and shooting 3’s.
I want AD to change that part of his game independent of Payton/Randle because it would make him a much more dangerous player, but if he does that it also has the benefit of greatly helping Payton/Randle/Jrue a whole lot.
I think anyone can play with AD. He makes everyone better on both sides of the floor, but the next step in his offensive evolution is becoming a legit threat from the perimeter, that takes his game and the Pels whole offense to another level.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:38 pm to NOFOX
I'm not a huge fan of AD taking 3's, but i can definitely see where it can make him almost ungaurdable if he can hit it at a good rate.
He also need to bring back that floater he perfected a while back and quit going to. I'm tired of seeing him try to beat the guy to the rim everytime when he drives to the goal. That works on some guys, but not all big men are slow. They can move and have long as arms too. That pull up floater was deadly, and he figures out when to pull up, when to finish at the rim, and when to take the outside shot, he's pretty unguardable by anyone.
He also need to bring back that floater he perfected a while back and quit going to. I'm tired of seeing him try to beat the guy to the rim everytime when he drives to the goal. That works on some guys, but not all big men are slow. They can move and have long as arms too. That pull up floater was deadly, and he figures out when to pull up, when to finish at the rim, and when to take the outside shot, he's pretty unguardable by anyone.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:36 pm to TeddyPadillac
David needs to.practice a new shot. Using different form for behind 3 line.. More of a set shot.
That way he keeps the form on 22 footer and just adds the 26 to 30 foot set shot.
Yes to tear drop again.
Probably likes getting to the line. There's a place for both.
That way he keeps the form on 22 footer and just adds the 26 to 30 foot set shot.
Yes to tear drop again.
Probably likes getting to the line. There's a place for both.
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