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re: Official Pelicans Free Agency Thread(Updated with transactions)

Posted on 7/7/14 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by LSU1SLU
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 6:17 pm to
I'm just clueless as to who would pay that much for Channing frye. I think Phoenix will survive without him lol
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 6:23 pm to
Green and a pick for ryno looks more plausible ATM.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:00 pm to
So this offseason it would be surrendering Ryan Anderson for Asik/Green. That seems like a solid move IMO.

I do like Ryan Anderson though.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:08 pm to
I still don't know how I'd feel about that trade.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:11 pm to
If/when Anderson is traded, I really hope they can do better than Green.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
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23488 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:26 pm to
Oh I was looking at the move as a whole may be ok.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:34 pm to
I hear that. Nothing wrong with the that whole. Since they picked up Asik for the pick, just being greedy and would like more for Anderson.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:53 pm to
If we would get a pick and Green for Anderson and only give a pick for Asik, I think it's a win for sure. Basically Ryno for Asik and Green. I'll definitely take that.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:57 pm to
I'd prefer trying to get a third team involved in the Asik trade that allows us to keep Ryno and Asik. If we knew that we could use the pick from the Suns to dump Gordon, that would definitely get me on board if it was essentially Gordon/Ryno for Green + ~$12m in cap space.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 7:58 pm to
So maybe

Holiday
Gordon
Green
Davis
Asik

Then Evans and Rivers running the second unit.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:01 pm to
Yeah if we can some how asorb Asik without losing Anderson it would be preferable. I don't think I like the idea of losing Rivers as he may be future depth if Gordon leaves as a FA or trade.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Colonel Flagg


I'm gonna be pissed if Gordon starts over Evans, for several reasons: Gordon should probably only play ~25 minutes to limit injuries, Evans is better than Gordon, and finally because it'll probably piss off Gordon and he may opt out.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:08 pm to
As long as they all get 30+ minutes it doesn't matter.

The only way we will ever trade Gordon though is if he shows out in big minutes.

Monty was an idiot for not playing Evans more.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:09 pm to
Not to mention it would probably piss off Evans if he didn't start after how he played at the end of last season. It's far more important to keep Evans happy obviously.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:11 pm to
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I'm wondering what the Orlando office has in mind. That's a lot of money and years for Frye considering he missed a season recently for heart problems


I don't know. 2 years later, Frye is getting slightly less money than Anderson at a time when the salary cap will increase by about $10-$20M over the life of his contract. You have to think they checked out his medical records are fine with it. His main skills should age quite nicely.

He's worse than Anderson, but as a pick and pop stretch big he is one of the best in the league. PHX isn't nearly the same team without his skills and presence on offense. I hope this doesn't presage Anderson for Green/1st. That's a losing trade for New Orleans under current coaching philosophy.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm to
Well as it stands now I would start Holiday, Gordon, and Evans together.

Evans would potentially be the only defensive mismatch; however, the other four starters would be capable defenders at their position. I would consider the offensive firepower outside of Asik to be outstanding. Including having Anderson and Rivers coming off the bench as very strong sixth and seventh men.

I am just concerned we will lose Anderson or Rivers to complete the Asik deal.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:18 pm to
Didn't we try that last year for a while? I know it was still early for Evans and Holliday so that probably played a role in it.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:20 pm to
Yeah but how long did we really try it and I think some one posted the stats and they weren't bad.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50415 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:24 pm to
Holiday/EG/Evans/Ryno/AD: 91 minutes, +16
Holiday/EG/Evans/Smiht/AD: 48.7 minutes, +12
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:30 pm to
I don't believe they ever started the game together.

That 5 man unit only played 91 minutes total. ORating of 123.5. DRating of 119.8. League average was around 104. A +3 in Net is solid. Most title contenders are at least +6 though.
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