re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

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How would this affect our ability to resign boogie

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We have Cousins' Bird Rights so it wouldn't. The question to ask is, is that a team worth paying the tax for. In 2019-20 Bledsoe will be up for a new deal. You either need to flip him before, which potentially pisses off AD/DC after they've committed to new deals already, or it'd be time to sell off Holiday for parts and possibly pay to dump Knight in the last year of his deal as well.

heres a variation that makes a little more sense for the Bucks, i think.

Pels- Delly/Knight
Suns- Asik/Hawes/QPon + Bucks 1st + Pels 1st
Bucks- Bledsoe/Ajinca

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heres a variation that makes a little more sense for the Bucks, i think.

Pels- Delly/Knight
Suns- Asik/Hawes/QPon + Bucks 1st + Pels 1st
Bucks- Bledsoe/Ajinca

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I'm not giving up a first to get rid of our bad contract for a worse contract.

Getting off Moore's salary too helps. If you don't add much salary over the next few years, ie Free Agency in future years looks kind of like this year's, you'd only be slightly into the tax when Cousins resigns. But I'm not sure there's much point in building a team like that.

he makes excellent points. but, man, i wish that dude would just chill the frick out.

its like he and Fisher are in competition to see who can display more self aggrandizement and more loathing of their audience while performing a fully voluntary action

of course. Moore to the Bucks doesnt make a ton of sense, but the Pels win that hypothetical deal so...

if the Bucks arent getting Bledsoe or shedding salary, i dont see why they play along w/ a Pels fantasy trade


Knight blows..Delly is overpaid, but the type of guy everyone has said they would like- can play defense, can shoot some, can create some.

we'll see. they just gave Tony Snell $45M at $10/yr. they have Malcom Brogdon on a rookie deal. Rashad Vaughn looks like a bust, but he's still only 20. and they are staring down a Jabari Parker extension next summer. things are looking tight for them.

i do think they would like to move on from Delly. but their front office is a shitshow right now.

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as much as paying a 1st and taking on Knight to get him is crazy expensive

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thats fair. those are 2 dumps from the Bucks and Suns. maybe they just get to swap bad contracts w/o a first. if not, i'd protect the hell out of it so that is likely doesnt convey, like Dallas for Noel.


ETA- i would also add that we shouldnt be worrying about positions. whether Holiday is a PG or SG. it doesnt matter if you pair him with another guy who can create some. its like Davis/Cousins- they are both PF and C. think back to our old Freedarko Z Graphs

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heres a variation that makes a little more sense for the Bucks, i think.

Pels- Delly/Knight
Suns- Asik/Hawes/QPon + Bucks 1st + Pels 1st
Bucks- Bledsoe/Ajinca

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Why in the world would we do that? Give up a 1st to take on a terrible contract and a marginal player. The Bucks would make out like a bandit.

I think its easy to say not to worry about positions. But we tried to pair Holiday with two different combo guards and didn't have the best results. All 3 had the worst seasons of their careers. Maybe it was coaching or system, but I think its imperative to maximize Holidays abilities. Whether that is at PG or SG, I don't care. But we don't need to muddy the waters anymore..

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I think the big question we need answered is does a lineup of Bledsoe, Jrue, B Knight, Solo, AD, and Cousins take us to the next level, put us ahead of OKC and MINN, and at least into the conversation with Houston and San Antonio? Because we would be stuck with these 6 guys for a while

That would be crazy considering at the end of the day that's 14 + 25 + 17 + 12 + 24 + 18 = $110 mil next season. And then we have to resign Boogie next summer. And then we have to resign Bledsoe the summer afterwards.

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Honestly, I'd say the answer to that is no. It doesn't take us to the next level. I'm tired of making moves for a short term reason (i.e. keeping Cousins) that limit us so much long term. It's how you get contracts like Asik and now Jrue (although I'm not totally against the Jrue resigning). Don't get me wrong, we should try to keep Cousins, but don't limit us so much in the long term to try to ensure it. It's not worth it because we still won't be anything special if we resign him with a team like the one listed if this trade happened.

I'd rather us roll the dice and see if we can do enough to keep Cousins with what we have and at least pitch to him that we have some flexibility going into next season and future seasons. Whereas if we made this move our pitch to him next year would be, "this is what we have for the next 6 years, and we have no draft pick this year. Take it and hope you guys improve or leave it"

Sitting tight also allows for the potential for us to make a move during the season which could be a better play than this one.

I'm okay with resigning Jrue to try to keep DMC. I'm not okay with taking on Brandon Knight and losing DMC. That just puts us in a terrible spot. If we lose DMC with the team we have now, well at least we have a movable Asik contract (by then), a first round pick, and a very very valuable trade asset in Davis which could help us hit the reset button.