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re: Oden has narrowed down his choices to Pelicans, Heat
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:16 am to LSU1SLU
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:16 am to LSU1SLU
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Have I ever said this!?
Thank you come again.
I don't know. That's the only post from you I've ever read. I don't know you.
I've seen it argued by others though.
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
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Well that splashes a bit of cold water on things.
That's in line with most of this boards expectations and the reason Oden will only get $3 million.
If he can up his playing time over the season, then everyone will be praising Demps if the 2nd year team option is included.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:18 am to Chad504boy
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not in my opinion. Oden will be a great player in his limited minutes he's played. Its money well spent. He also has a fantastic shot for being a big man.
I really meant that for other people. I know what I expect out of Oden: not much.
If he can contribute at all that is a major plus, so I'm fine with it.
Anyone who is expecting him to start and play 25 minutes a game is a lunatic.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:23 am to Mickey Goldmill
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I'm asking you a simple question.
No, you're asking me a loaded question. I will not justify it with a response.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:24 am to Jester
oden to heat
not really
not really
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:25 am to Fun Bunch
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Anyone who is expecting him to start and play 25 minutes a game is a lunatic.
If his health continues in a positive manner, i don't think its completely unrealistic by the end of the season...dare i say POST SEASON.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:25 am to Fun Bunch
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What don't people get about that?
There is an information vacuum about Oden and people are filling it with best case scenarios. Remember when we thought this had to be done as a S&T involving Jason Smith? I was only ok with that because if Demps was ok with that it had to mean Oden was in good shape. Once facts start coming out things started looking different.
1) We are doing this with basically found money, an exception we thought we had used on Stiemsma.
2) Oden isn't even cleared to play 5 on 5 yet, you have to lower your expectations of where Oden is and will be.
A player option on a guy that still may never play in the league again would be irresponsible. I'd be surprised if Demps does that and if he does it's because he has access to more information than we have. Based on the information we as fans have access to, a player option shouldn't even be part of the conversation.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:26 am to Fun Bunch
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You do not give a player with that kind of risk more than one year guaranteed. EVER
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:27 am to Gtothemoney
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:29 am to Jester
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:30 am to Fun Bunch
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You do not give a player with that kind of risk more than one year guaranteed. EVER.
What don't people get about that? Roster spots are precious. They have to serve a purpose.
We just gave Morrow a 2nd year player option...
(now lets hear how amazing Morrow is gonna be lol)
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:31 am to Chad504boy
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If his health continues in a positive manner, i don't think its completely unrealistic by the end of the season.
So you are basing his improvement on having surgery in February of 2012 and still not being cleared for 5 on 5 action? That's quite an interesting projection, from zero to zero in 18 months and then zero to 75% of starters minutes just 6 months.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:31 am to Jester
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No, you're asking me a loaded question. I will not justify it with a response.
Lol ok pal. Sorry it was accurate and you wont own up.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:32 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Lol ok pal. Sorry it was accurate and you wont own up.
Okay, you win the internet. Run and tell your parents. They may bring you for celebratory ice cream.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:33 am to TigerinATL
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So you are basing his improvement on having surgery in February of 2012 and still not being cleared for 5 on 5 action? That's quite an interesting projection, from zero to zero in 18 months and then zero to 75% of starters minutes just 6 months.
Oden is not the first player in the history of the world to come back from microfracture. I don't even give a frick what it was, he's been getting healthy, teams are liking what they are seeing.
I didn't project anything, i used the term " i don't think it's completely unrealistic".....
So you are saying its completely unrealistic for him to play 25 min per game at any point in the season?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:34 am to Mickey Goldmill
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We just gave Morrow a 2nd year player option...
(now lets hear how amazing Morrow is gonna be lol)
Morrow is on a minimum deal and is the equivalent of the type of player we would replace him with anyway next year. The risk there is a new injury preventing him from playing next year, which is a relatively low risk. The risk profile of a guy that hasn't played since 2009 is quite a bit different.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:35 am to Chad504boy
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So you are saying its completely unrealistic for him to play 25 min per game at any point in the season?
Consistently, yes. He may be able to do it once or twice, but he will not play 25 minutes with any consistency. Book it.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:35 am to TigerinATL
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The risk profile of a guy that hasn't played since 2009 is quite a bit different.
So is his impact, ceiling, influence on a game with limited minutes, our desperation for a player at this position etc.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:36 am to TigerinATL
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Morrow is on a minimum deal and is the equivalent of the type of player we would replace him with anyway next year. The risk there is a new injury preventing him from playing next year, which is a relatively low risk. The risk profile of a guy that hasn't played since 2009 is quite a bit different.
Careful, he may troll you poorly.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 10:36 am to Chad504boy
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So you are saying its completely unrealistic for him to play 25 min the entire season?
Fify
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