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re: Now we have a better chance at Brogdon

Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36267 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:20 pm to
38% vs 36%, but if you just look at the per game averages, Ryno for his career takes the same amount of 3’s as Niko, and makes just 1 more than Niko every 10 games. Their “games” aren’t necessarily the same, but Niko is just as much of a shooter that Ryno is.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6040 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:26 pm to
He also has more handle and quickness and the ability to get to the rim. I mean he’s not going to raise up on someone but he can get there much more effectively than Ryno. Also much more versatile defensively.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11146 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:46 pm to
If we make the trade with the Knicks, which seems most likely, that gives us a possible back court of Barrett and Holiday (Barrett sees himself in the style of Harden). So what is the better combination? A 1-3 line up that combines Brogdon/Holiday/Barrett or we grab a RFA like Oubre and go with something like Barrett/Holiday/Oubre?

So Brogdon or Oubre?
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10182 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:48 pm to
Who plays the point?

Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10182 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:51 pm to
Would Knox play the 3 ?
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:29 pm to
Why are the Knicks the most realistic?

Knicks is a full on youth movement. Think jrue wants to just be him with guys 22 and younger?
Posted by PTinBR
Member since Mar 2017
639 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:39 pm to
The difference between Niko and Ryno isn’t so much their shooting, it’s the defense. Niko plays it.
Posted by TeachMeHowTaDante
DC
Member since Feb 2015
417 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:32 pm to
He’s streaky yes, but opposing defenses respect the hell out of him. He opens things up for everyone on the court. The reason why he was quiet in the Golden State was because they saw what he did in the Portland series. Also, we played a must win game in Oakland late in the year where Niko went off for 30 plus as well. They knew he could swing a game or two and even potentially the series if they didn’t pay extra attention to him so they stuck Iggy on him that series. And honestly that is a positive because Iggy is probably their 2nd best defender. If you have a team with enough firepower, that can ultimately be an issue for Golden State if you have to have Iggy follow Mirotic around all game. Niko checks all the boxes for me. He can win you games you aren’t supposed to win if he catches fire and his overall play here was a net positive even on his 2-10 three point nights. That’s worth 15m a year to me all day long. It just didn’t work out for him 100% in Milwaukee, but let’s not forget and/or marginalize what he did night in and out in Uncle Al’s system.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 4:16 am to
quote:

Brogdon 4 year 60 million 
Nico 3 year 36 million


This would be perfect scenario for Bucks. Not possible.

Start from 4/80 and 3/45
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2263 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 9:25 am to
I can live with that.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 9:46 am to
Id go 4/72

18 mil a year might do it

That sounds about right for niko
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2263 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 10:26 am to
Yes to 15-18 mil for Brogdon but 10-12 a year for Niko.
Posted by TeachMeHowTaDante
DC
Member since Feb 2015
417 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:10 am to
Let’s offer them a Morris Twin type deal. Tell them we have 32m a year for them and they can decide who gets what.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46272 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:18 am to
Brogdon is going to get his 20+, probably from the bucks.
they will make no effort on mirotic (they can’t and they shouldn’t), so if you want him you can have him. I think 15 is reasonable as long as there’s not a better option...in a vacuum I think I’d rather eat a contract and get a pick assuming Davis is gone

I know we want to get back into team building mode but we need to acknowledge that if Davis is traded the team is not going to be a winner next year. They should be arming themselves for the wars to come
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2263 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:18 pm to
I highly doubt that they will give Brogdon 20+ when they just paid Bledsoe and want to resign Middleton and Lopez. Plus, they have George Hill for another year.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11146 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:48 pm to
I think Hill is only partially guaranteed and they can buy him out (save them like 15M)..
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46272 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:03 pm to
they do not have bird rights on Lopez and hill is only gtd 1MM next year.
they can and they will max Middleton and match or max any offer for brogdon

it’s tony snell clogging up their plumbing not hill
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2263 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:11 pm to
I doubt they will max Middleton, pay Lopez (which they said they will) and also pay Brogdon 17+. Not when they are already paying Bledsoe 17.5, have Hill on a cheap deal, and have to pay Greek Freak.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46272 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 3:29 pm to
they only have hill on a cheap deal if they waive him
Jesus dude do a minor bit of research



Posted by HEAVYtiger23
Hammond
Member since Mar 2019
446 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:33 pm to
He would likely be 3rd or 4thscoring option on our team but efficient and one of our most valuable defensive assets. Stop forgetting that defensive versatility is super important in today’s nba
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