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re: NBADraft.net 6/24 Mock: Pels picking Nerlens Noel
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:42 am to BomBayTiger
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:42 am to BomBayTiger
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"Nerlens in New Orleans"
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:43 am to ShoeBang
I'm in for Nerlens Noel!
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:44 am to Jester
quote:Agree completely. Noel does not have the frame to get much bigger.
quote: Just by looking at Noel, I feel like he can retain muscle mass better than Davis, and should be able to pack on more muscle mass. No offense, but I think it's the exact opposite. AD has broad shoulders to fill into. I don't see the same in Noel.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:44 am to Jester
I hope we don't draft Noel I see Bust all over him.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:45 am to Fun Bunch
quote:What kind of trade asset? If the top 5 want nothing to do with him, when will his value be any higher unless he becomes a great player in the NBA? I do not see much of a trade asset unless it is on draft night.
I think they run to the podium and take Noel. It would be a trade asset more than anything. I just don't see the fit with Davis, but he is EXTREMELY talented, and big men with that kind of talent are usually worth the risk in such a weak draft...if for nothing more than a very nice trade asset. It is not what I want to happen...but if he's there, that is what happens.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:47 am to NOSHAU
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What kind of trade asset? If the top 5 want nothing to do with him, when will his value be any higher unless he becomes a great player in the NBA? I do not see much of a trade asset unless it is on draft night.
Andre Drummond. Picked at 10...what's his trade value now? Much, much higher than the 10th pick.
The reason why he's slipping (if he is) is the knee.
If he comes back, plays, shows athleticism and shot blocking ability, and his healthy...you've got an instant trade chip.
This is not in the offseason, obviously.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:47 am to Fun Bunch
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This is just the eyeball test to me, but he looked to run the floor better than Davis and to have more explosion in his leaps (a lot more to me, actually). He also was, believe it or not, a better shot blocker.
Which is fine and all, but we're still not talking about actual basketball skill. That's all I'm saying. Sure, the guy has some freakish measurables and definitely altered a lot of shots in college, but he's not the first one to do that, and not all of them succeeded in the NBA.
He reminds me a lot of Serge Ibaka without the range. I think he's worth a gander at 6, but I just don't see "can't pass him up at 6." There will be other talented players there.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:48 am to NOSHAU
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Agree completely. Noel does not have the frame to get much bigger.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:48 am to Fun Bunch
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Andre Drummond. Picked at 10...what's his trade value now? Much, much higher than the 10th pick.
No doubt, but Drummond performed. That doesn't mean that Noel will perform. He could just as well never find his way in the league and get traded for a ham sandwich like many other failed lottery picks.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:50 am to Jester
His ceiling to me is "a better Tyson Chandler", which is a considerable player.
He's significantly more talented than Burke, IMO.
Again, I'm not a big Nerlens Noel fan at all, but if the draft fell like that, that's hard to pass on.
It also means that we really aren't competing this year, at least for awhile.
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I think he's worth a gander at 6, but I just don't see "can't pass him up at 6." There will be other talented players there.
He's significantly more talented than Burke, IMO.
Again, I'm not a big Nerlens Noel fan at all, but if the draft fell like that, that's hard to pass on.
It also means that we really aren't competing this year, at least for awhile.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:51 am to Fun Bunch
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And? His shoulders look wider than Noel's....
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:52 am to Jester
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He could just as well never find his way in the league and get traded for a ham sandwich like many other failed lottery picks.
He could, but that's why people take the chance on talented big men over small guys. If they hit (and rebounding and shot blocking translate better than anything), then you have a massive advantage.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:52 am to Jester
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Who did very little to help the Bulls and took 5 or 6 years to become a solid player.
That was a clusterfrick all around, in part due to bad coaching, injuries, and the bright idea of taking two big-men out of high school in the same draft.
Players need minutes to develop and it's kind of hard for them to do so when they keep getting jerked in and out of the lineup as well as splitting time with another guy the team wants to develop.
Tyson didn't really evolve until he ended up playing for us under Byron. He and CP3 have to be two of the only players who really "developed" for us under him.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:52 am to Jester
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And? His shoulders look wider than Noel's....
I respectfully disagree. He looks skinnier to me.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
Look at the shoulders. Noel's frame is slimmer than Duncan's.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
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Again, I'm not a big Nerlens Noel fan at all, but if the draft fell like that, that's hard to pass on.
It would be pretty easy to me. Noel is basically a 3 - 5 year trade investment. I just think it's a risky move for a team that needs talent on the floor.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:54 am to Fun Bunch
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He could, but that's why people take the chance on talented big men over small guys. If they hit (and rebounding and shot blocking translate better than anything), then you have a massive advantage.
And taking a chance on big men has ruined many a roster.....
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:54 am to Jester
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And taking a chance on big men has ruined many a roster.....
And provided championships for others. Every pick is a risk.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:55 am to Fun Bunch
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And provided championships for others. Every pick is a risk.
Who? Which risky big man put his drafting team over the top?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:56 am to Jester
quote:I think we would take the chance on his potential if he fell to us, I think he is an even better defensive prospect than AD was at UK. I saw a comparison to Noah by a poster and I think he could be an all defensive type guy while averaging a double-double. If you put that next to Davis (KG type player + Noah), that could be nice.
Is he really THAT talented? I keep seeing people imply he's some super talent, but I just don't see it. He's a rangy defensive 5 with little offensive skill. There's clearly some ceiling there, but there's also a floor to be concerned about. Not saying he won't last in the league, but he's far from an "OMG CAN'T MISS" prospect.
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