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re: Moe Harkless: Revisited
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:49 pm to KG5989
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:49 pm to KG5989
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And why wouldn't there be 25 minutes to be had?? Aminu averages 25 a night now. Rivers averaged 23 minutes before he went down.
You just listed a SF and a guard. Anderson isn't competing for PT at either of those spots.
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:49 pm to Jester
Kind of makes me wonder how far along Rivers would be if he hadn't gotten injured.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:51 pm to corndeaux
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What? He is having a great year with a basic offensive game next to Lopez. Unless you believe he wont add to his offensive game, how does a post anchor, clogging the lane and taking touches from him compliment him over the next 4 years?
ya, hopefully Davis is Tim Duncan--all you need down low. I think Lopez/Smith or a guy like Blatche can hold it down at C while Davis gets there.
Spend the money elsewhere.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:52 pm to drake20
You are really putting Anderson on a pedastal. He's my favorite hornet player but he's a niche role player. A bigger version of JJ Reddick and Kyle Korver.
And he can still play more than enough minutes. He's a team guy and would not complain about PT
And he can still play more than enough minutes. He's a team guy and would not complain about PT
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:54 pm to Jester
Anderson is the ultimate tweener. He's a SF / perimeter scorer that just happens to be 6'10. He's more a 3 than he is a PF.
We would figure out the minutes that would maximize the ability of the team and make it work.
We would figure out the minutes that would maximize the ability of the team and make it work.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:55 pm to KG5989
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And why wouldn't there be 25 minutes to be had??
34 - AD
30 - Pek/Jeff
10 - Smith
That is a really conservative minute allocation and it only leaves 22 for Anderson. You also make it hard to have 3 of your better players on the floor at the same time to finish games. Wouldn't it be better to invest that money in a player that would be able to play at crunch time?
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:55 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:He might have done something crazy like shoot 60% FT
Kind of makes me wonder how far along Rivers would be if he hadn't gotten injured.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:56 pm to GynoSandberg
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You would play guys like Gordon, Davis, and (insert center; doesn't have to be big name. Blatche would work) 30+ mpg. All good offensive options, none liabilities on defense.
Address your need at SF by adding a guy who can stretch the floor and won't break the bank (Parsons? Buddinger? Tobias Harris? Dorrel Wright?)
Add a good, pass first PG to help set these guys up. Through the draft? (Burke? Smart? MCW?)
Now you have GV as insurance backing up a rookie PG. Ryno who can spell a still young Davis, as well as add flexibility in lineups where Davis plays C. Lopez is a 7', legit backup center. Rivers who could backup both guard positions. Fill the rest of the bench with those cheap guys who tap Monty on the waist.
In theory you don't hand out a max deal in this scenario. You can keep that in your back pocket.
I love this scenario, especially the guys you listed as SF options--they would all be great adds.
I just think that the organization is looking to make a splash THIS offseason. The re-brand and new facility is happening. They want to win now and attract fans.
i think the team will at least try to give the big contract this offseason, not that I necessarily think it's the right move.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:57 pm to drake20
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ya, hopefully Davis is Tim Duncan--all you need down low. I think Lopez/Smith or a guy like Blatche can hold it down at C while Davis gets there.
This is kind of my feeling, too. If you can bring in an affordable banger that can get you 20-25 MPG at the 5, that's what I want to see. We have too many needs to blow our load on another player with a significant, known defensive flaw.
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Spend the money elsewhere.
Not all of it. You need to spend some on a center, but not all of it. If Gordon gets traded, all bets are off, though. We're probably going to see another year with only 3 or 4 returning players. We need some consistency at some point.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:58 pm to KG5989
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Anderson is the ultimate tweener. He's a SF / perimeter scorer that just happens to be 6'10. He's more a 3 than he is a PF.
We would figure out the minutes that would maximize the ability of the team and make it work.
Forget minutes. Al Jefferson would cost $10M per year and do absolutely nothing to fix our biggest flaw.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:58 pm to KG5989
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Well he's not really a 4.
why not?
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And why wouldn't there be 25 minutes to be had?? Aminu averages 25 a night now. Rivers averaged 23 minutes before he went down.
There would be much more talent down low than on the wings in this situation. Anderson can only play one position (unlike Rivers).
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:01 pm to GynoSandberg
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You would play guys like Gordon, Davis, and (insert center; doesn't have to be big name. Blatche would work) 30+ mpg. All good offensive options, none liabilities on defense.
Address your need at SF by adding a guy who can stretch the floor and won't break the bank (Parsons? Buddinger? Tobias Harris? Dorrel Wright?)
Add a good, pass first PG to help set these guys up. Through the draft? (Burke? Smart? MCW?)
Now you have GV as insurance backing up a rookie PG. Ryno who can spell a still young Davis, as well as add flexibility in lineups where Davis plays C. Lopez is a 7', legit backup center. Rivers who could backup both guard positions. Fill the rest of the bench with those cheap guys who tap Monty on the waist.
In theory you don't hand out a max deal in this scenario. You can keep that in your back pocket.
I missed this post. Legit
I wonder if we could pull it off while keeping Aminu as a role player.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:01 pm to TigerinATL
I'm on team Pek. See below:
" 96 minutes at PF/C. Below is the general rotation.
30 minutes for Pek at C
30 minutes for Ryno at PF
18 minutes for AD at C
18 minutes for AD at PF
Can even play Ryno at C in some situations.
Smith is your 4th big. Trade Lopez.
Smart/GV
Gordon/Rivers
Chandler or Brewer/aminu
AD/Ryno/smith
Pek/AD/Ryno/Smith
'Ship "
Not 100% sure of the cap implications, but I think it works.
Also, if smart isn't there, go with MCW or Burke.
" 96 minutes at PF/C. Below is the general rotation.
30 minutes for Pek at C
30 minutes for Ryno at PF
18 minutes for AD at C
18 minutes for AD at PF
Can even play Ryno at C in some situations.
Smith is your 4th big. Trade Lopez.
Smart/GV
Gordon/Rivers
Chandler or Brewer/aminu
AD/Ryno/smith
Pek/AD/Ryno/Smith
'Ship "
Not 100% sure of the cap implications, but I think it works.
Also, if smart isn't there, go with MCW or Burke.
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:02 pm to drake20
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why not?
Because hes not a 4. Hes a 6'10 perimeter scorer. The ultimate tweener.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:02 pm to corndeaux
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What? He is having a great year with a basic offensive game next to Lopez. Unless you believe he wont add to his offensive game, how does a post anchor, clogging the lane and taking touches from him compliment him over the next 4 years
Tim Duncan won an MVP with David Robinson getting 30mpg next to him. His best season as a pro.
Players adjust to their team. Whoever came in as center wouldn't automatically steal shots from AD. Come on
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:02 pm to drake20
How much would Tobias Harris be worth to us? By that, I mean, "Is he worth blowing some cap space by doing another Rashard Lewis deal?"
I ask because Hedo Turkoglu's contract is about to enter its final season and it is only $6m in guaranteed money.
Depending on the Magic's off-season plans and cash-flow, they may decide it is worth trading Harris if it means getting Hedo off the books.
I ask because Hedo Turkoglu's contract is about to enter its final season and it is only $6m in guaranteed money.
Depending on the Magic's off-season plans and cash-flow, they may decide it is worth trading Harris if it means getting Hedo off the books.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:03 pm to KG5989
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Because hes not a 4. Hes a 6'10 perimeter scorer. The ultimate tweener.
He can't defend 3's.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:04 pm to Solo
quote:
96 minutes at PF/C. Below is the general rotation.
30 minutes for Pek at C
30 minutes for Ryno at PF
18 minutes for AD at C
18 minutes for AD at PF
Can even play Ryno at C in some situations.
It's not that simple. Sure the numbers add up to having a guy on the court at all times, but making that work as a rotation is not as easy.
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Smart/GV
Gordon/Rivers
Chandler or Brewer/aminu
AD/Ryno/smith
Pek/AD/Ryno/Smith
Vasquez would probably start over Smart for the near future.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:04 pm to Solo
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Smith is your 4th big.
Which is different than your 5th big. Monty has called Smith the team's best defender and he's got reliable offense too. He'll be getting at least 10 minutes a game. There are very few teams that just play 3 bigs.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:04 pm to THRILLHO
Cant really defend 4s either. Actually, cant really play defense at all. If hes at 3 on O doesnt mean he has to guard a 3. Put him on the worst offensive player on the other team.
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