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Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:07 pm to GynoSandberg
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You are really putting Anderson on a pedastal. He's my favorite hornet player but he's a niche role player. A bigger version of JJ Reddick and Kyle Korver.
I get what you're saying, but I disagree. His Korver/Reddick ability at the PF position is much more valuable than their ability at their positions, imo. It's rarer at the 4 and tougher to defend/match up with.
Anderson has rebounded well in the past, especially on the offensive board, so he has more than one ability.
Maybe I rate him too high, but I see him as a core piece on a great contract. The team's gonna win 30+ games perhaps. We're improving. He's one of the constant bright spots. He deserves a promotion, not a demotion.
I don't care if he starts, but he shouldn't be losing significant minutes, imo.
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And he can still play more than enough minutes. He's a team guy and would not complain about PT
he's a good guy, but I wouldn't bank on this...he's gonna want another big contract in a few years.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:07 pm to KG5989
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Cant really defend 4s either. Actually, cant really play defense at all.
You're greatly overstating this part of your argument. Anderson isn't a great defender, but he isn't near as bad as "can't really play defense at all."
When you make statements like that, it really devalues your whole argument. No need to inject hyperbole.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:08 pm to TigerinATL
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34 - AD
30 - Pek/Jeff
10 - Smith
That is a really conservative minute allocation and it only leaves 22 for Anderson. You also make it hard to have 3 of your better players on the floor at the same time to finish games. Wouldn't it be better to invest that money in a player that would be able to play at crunch time?
thank you.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:10 pm to drake20
He can board and body up bigs. And I'm certainly not saying cut his minutes drastically. 25+ still.
But just because he is on a good contract doesn't mean it should force our hand to play him more or expand his roll. Whatever is best for the team ya know?
But just because he is on a good contract doesn't mean it should force our hand to play him more or expand his roll. Whatever is best for the team ya know?
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:12 pm to Solo
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30 minutes for Pek at C
30 minutes for Ryno at PF
18 minutes for AD at C
18 minutes for AD at PF
don't see it happening that way with Davis.
...gonna need at least a few minutes for a 4th big.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:12 pm to Jester
Ok. Plain and simple. Anderson is a bad defender and is a defensive liability.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:17 pm to Jester
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I don't understand what you mean here.
taking on Hedo's terrible contract in order to get a young asset at SF in Harris (in a trade). I think??
I like Harris. Milwaukee may have messed up there....but Turkoglu
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:18 pm to Jester
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You're greatly overstating this part of your argument. Anderson isn't a great defender, but he isn't near as bad as "can't really play defense at all."
When you make statements like that, it really devalues your whole argument. No need to inject hyperbole.
I agree...when did Anderson, Lopez, and Vasquez become the three worst defenders in the league?
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:20 pm to drake20
That is the playoff(ha) rotation. Smith gets minutes in the regular season. Pek or Ryno get crunch time minutes based on the situation. Down 5 with 2 to go? Ryno. Up 3 with 1:30, Pek.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:25 pm to drake20
Harkless may make Harris expendable. He is cheap and has club options in 13 and 14 and is restricted in 15. We don't have much to trade though
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:26 pm to GynoSandberg
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He can board and body up bigs. And I'm certainly not saying cut his minutes drastically. 25+ still.
yep...I just see it being very difficult to get him those kind of minutes with the rotation we'd be working with.
Not to mention the major issue of sitting one of those big name guys in crunch time. You've got to have that big shot player that can close gaps on the court at the end. Al Jefferson off the court at the end of games??
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But just because he is on a good contract doesn't mean it should force our hand to play him more or expand his roll. Whatever is best for the team ya know?
Completely agree...I'm saying his play for us should at least keep his minutes where they are, independent of contract. Most of my opinions on this go back to my thoughts that Davis can play competent minutes at C.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:26 pm to KG5989
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Ok. Plain and simple. Anderson is a bad defender and is a defensive liability.
Again, this is overstated. Al Jefferson is also a defensive liability.
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:31 pm to GynoSandberg
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Tim Duncan won an MVP with David Robinson getting 30mpg next to him. His best season as a pro.
How old was The Admiral and how many years did he play after that season? And can you quote the Admirals stats from that year?
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:32 pm to GynoSandberg
Do we agree that Lopez/Smith are good backup bigs?
I'm hoping Davis can be that stud very soon. He's already putting up big double-doubles somewhat regularly.
Anderson is a legit, starting caliber PF...It doesn't matter if he starts or not, but I think we already have what we need down low.
Add a banger...someone that can defend and rebound, but doesn't need minutes, and we're complete down low, imo.
The SF position entirely and the bench at 1-3, maybe more (depending on Gordon), is where the money/attention should be focused on.
I'm hoping Davis can be that stud very soon. He's already putting up big double-doubles somewhat regularly.
Anderson is a legit, starting caliber PF...It doesn't matter if he starts or not, but I think we already have what we need down low.
Add a banger...someone that can defend and rebound, but doesn't need minutes, and we're complete down low, imo.
The SF position entirely and the bench at 1-3, maybe more (depending on Gordon), is where the money/attention should be focused on.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:35 pm to KG5989
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Ok. Plain and simple. Anderson is a bad defender and is a defensive liability.
His weakness on D is overstated.
...plenty of lacking defensive players out there that are viewed as assets...can't be perfect defensively at every position...all players have their weaknesses (with a couple of exceptions).
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:37 pm to GynoSandberg
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Harkless may make Harris expendable. He is cheap and has club options in 13 and 14 and is restricted in 15. We don't have much to trade though
Harris would be a perfect fit, imo....very versatile.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 5:41 pm to Jester
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Again, this is overstated. Al Jefferson is also a defensive liability.
most players are weaker at one end...If you're not great on offense and defense like Lebron, you're a liability. TRADE.
...you have to create a rotation that masks the weaknesses as much as possible.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 6:02 pm to corndeaux
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How old was The Admiral and how many years did he play after that season? And can you quote the Admirals stats from that year?
Duncan won back-to-back MVPs next to Robinson. (2001-02 and 2002-03).
They were Robinson's last two seasons at 36 and 37 years old.
Robinson put up 12.2, 8.3, 1.8, and 50.7 FG% in 29.5 MPG and 8.5, 7.9, 1.7, and 46.9 FG% in 26.2 MPG, respectively.
8.6 and 6.6 shot attempts per game those last two seasons.
...so ya, it wasn't quite Al Jefferson or David Robinson (if you catch my drift) playing next to Duncan.
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 4/3/13 at 6:43 pm to drake20
quote:quote:taking on Hedo's terrible contract in order to get a young asset at SF in Harris (in a trade). I think?? I like Harris. Milwaukee may have messed up there....but Turkoglu
I don't understand what you mean here.
This is the thrust of what I meant.
The bright side, though, is that the one year remaining on Hedo's deal is only half guaranteed, at $6m, thanks to Hedo's big push to escape Toronto for Phoenix back in 2010.
He waived his trade kicker and gave up part of the guarantee in the final year of his deal to make the trade happen.
Eating $6m in dead cap space may be a small price to pay for a young SF who has potential.
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