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re: KOC: Celtics have emerged as contenders for Jrue

Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
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It's possible the #Celtics flip picks and Kemba Walker to the #Pelicans for Jrue Holiday, and send Gordon Hayward to the #Pacers for a deal involving Myles Turner.


i would rage
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
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It's possible the #Celtics flip picks and Kemba Walker to the #Pelicans for Jrue Holiday


That’s gonna be a no for me dog.
Posted by aswemajor
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
Would love to get Kemba. Finally we could have a dynamic scorer who can create his own shot.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:21 pm to
Let's assume they sent Hayward to the Pacers.
You still have Kemba making $34M, Brown making $23M, and then you'd have Jrue and Tatum getting deals next offseason. Tatum is a given, and will be a max. So let's say around $30M. Now you have almost $90M in 3 players. What are they going to give Jrue? You can't have 4 guys eating up move than what the salary cap is.

I don't get what they would be trying to do with acquiring Jrue, unless they viewed him as a 1 year rental.
Posted by heauxfeauxsheaux
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:22 pm to
Pelicans are going to end up keeping Jrue aren't they lol
Posted by Pelefraan 1
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:24 pm to
I hope so
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:25 pm to
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It's possible the #Celtics flip picks and Kemba Walker to the #Pelicans for Jrue Holiday, and send Gordon Hayward to the #Pacers for a deal involving Myles Turner.



I love Kemba Walker, always have since UConn, but 4 years left at $34M/yr is just too damn much for him.
The Pacers would have to inlcude a lot more than Turner. They've got too much salary to not send out a good bit more. They'd have to find another team to take on Oladipo more than likely.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Let's assume they sent Hayward to the Pacers. You still have Kemba making $34M


They are sending us Kemba in this scenario.
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:27 pm to
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And at this point, putting JJ into any trade is ridiculous. He was a big part of the SVG hire, no way we will just ship him out.



Yeah, I agree. It seems very likely JJ is considered to be a veteran ambassador to help the team buy into SVG. So he is going to have excess value beyond what he had for us last year. If there is a price to put on a player that can aide in getting your two superstars to buy into your coach and organization, it's a high one.

Don't see him just being thrown into a trade unless he requests out, which all indications are he has a rejuvenated interest in being here.
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:27 pm to
We'd be dumb to at this point.

If we're openly shopping him it's because he's hinted or outright told us he won't re-sign.

So if it comes down to it you trade him away for something. Even it is just a lottery pick.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:28 pm to
Only thing I can figure is, Kemba fills the leadership role the Pelicans say they're looking for. Maybe those picks, packaged with 13 get you, somewhere around top 5?

Other than that...
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:32 pm to
I don't see Kemba as the guy we would target in that trade. Either Smart or Brown make more sense but they seem to be very valuable to them.
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:33 pm to
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I love Kemba Walker, always have since UConn, but 4 years left at $34M/yr is just too damn much for him.


Yep, that is my concern as well.

Pot would need to be a lot sweeter than just another pick around our current spot(likely what Boston could flip it for if they even can) and a guy that would be great for a couple more seasons, but like Jrue, you have to really worry about what the second half of his contract does to you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:34 pm to
It's just rude to engage in Pelican trade rumors then throwing in another trade not involving the Pelicans and having Turner moved for mid-level value
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:39 pm to
Boston has been desperate to dump their 3 picks all offseason.

This is just them trying to get in on this and dump their picks but I don’t see it happening.

No one wants 3 picks in this draft.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:39 pm to


I would absolutely take another lottery pick and Kemba for Jrue...
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
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but 4 years left at $34M/yr is just too damn much for him.

It’s 3 years and the third is a player option
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:43 pm to
Depends on the pick and I just don’t love Kemba’s contract. He’s a decent player but way way overpaid.

He would help us but it’s just very meh to me.

Is the pick 6? Or is it 10? Or 14? Big difference.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:52 pm to
Would you rather pay Kemba 34 mil for 3 years, or Jrue 30+ mil for the 4 years following this one?

I would guess the pick would be somewhere around 8 or later. I don't think that the Boston picks get you to 6.
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