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re: Jose is being traded to Knicks for Dalen Terry, 2 2nds and cash

Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:42 pm to
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was the two wizards seconds it would have been more palatable. Two second rounders that we probably won’t even wind up using that’ll land in the 50s is hilarious.


Joe probably doesnt realize that you can trade multiple players to get picks
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:11 pm to
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Two second rounders that we probably won’t even wind up using that’ll land in the 50s is hilarious.


Oh we definitely will use them….

To get more cash
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:55 pm to
I tried to be a fan of this team. Spent money. Traveled to games. frick this shite. I’ve got better things to do with my time.
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:09 pm to
I miss Jose already. frick the organization makes it hard to give a frick about this team.
Posted by BGpels
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:49 am to

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Acting like Jose was going to leave is such a weak frick defeatist attitude. Dude loves it here. Hes fricking loyal


That's true, but he also has family to feed.
And everyone knew NYK are interested in him, so tell me you are certain he wasn't going to decline the option?

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Of all the trades to not make this was the one to not fricking make


Realistically what you have expect for him? A first? If he was under contract for couple more years, perhaps.
Posted by BGpels
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:53 am to
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I can't buy that. Queen will never be worth two lottery picks; never


What does the trade have in common with the proper scounting and drafting? Apparently they suck in negotiations, but not in identifying talent.
Posted by BGpels
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:59 am to
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2 chances to replace a pretty good bench player? Those two chances will be in the late 2nd. Tell me how confident you are in those chances.


I have way more confidence in that then any trade they would have done for Zion, Herb, Trey at the deadline. Hopefully in the summer teams like LAL and GSW will come with better proposals for Herb and Trey, ones they can't refuse and we will start the rebuild (and let Zion go for couple of seconds).
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 7:39 am to
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fricking tons of posters itt defending this trade can drink bleach. fricking awful to get rid of Jose for fricking peanuts

Jose was a free agent after next season and can probably get more money on the market. You have no clue if he planned to stay here.

The undrafted 27 y/o career back up on a shitty team isn't worth much more than peanuts.

The funny thing is that there's a strong chance ANY 19-22 y/o drafted 31-60 will end up better than Jose who already has a low arse ceiling as a career backup at 27.

He was a 23 y/o undrafted player. Literally any younger 2nd rd pick could have the same floor/ ceiling as him.

We don't need to drink bleach, some of you need to fricking go outside or maybe see a mental health professional.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 7:40 am
Posted by iykyk985
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 8:26 am to
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Apparently they suck in negotiations, but not in identifying talent.


They identified talent (Queen) that will never be worth two lottery picks in the opinion of most.

What's more they identified talent (Poole) they traded for that they over-valued considerably or maybe you feel they won that trade.

Look up the name, Killian Hayes, and ask Piston Fans if Weaver can identify talent. Weaver selected him over the likes of:

Tyrese Halliburton
Deni Advija
Tyrese Maxie
Payton Pritchard
...and others including Saddiq Bey
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 8:30 am to
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The undrafted 27 y/o career back up on a shitty team isn't worth much more than peanuts.

The funny thing is that there's a strong chance ANY 19-22 y/o drafted 31-60 will end up better than Jose who already has a low arse ceiling as a career backup at 27.


Another clueless take. Its like you never heard Jose speak or play.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:15 am to
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Another clueless take. Its like you never heard Jose speak or play.

Dude he's like 10th in rotation and we have 13 wins. He's meaningless to winning or the future success of the Pelicans franchise. This has nothing to do with Jose as a person or player, I respect the hell out of him for both.

I appreciate your commitment to the Pelicans but come on man he's an undrafted player that got 2 late 2nds. He's averaging almost 2 pts less than Jordan fricking Hawkins for their career avg.

Jordan Hawkins with a bad back and 4 years younger still has a higher ceiling. Let that sink in.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 9:21 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:20 am to
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He's meaningless to winning or the future success of the Pelicans franchise.


I disagree completely. We arent going to change each other's minds.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:28 am to
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I disagree completely. We arent going to change each other's minds

Well don't call others clueless because you decide to have your mind set on an emotional take that doesn't actually translate to success or winning.

If Zion/ Trey aren't getting it done than Jose Alvarado sure as hell won't have an impact. He's had good games and brings good memories. That's absolutely it.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:31 am to
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Well don't call others clueless because you decide to have your mind set am a retarded take.


Sigh
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:32 am to
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Sigh

I Immediately retracted because ita a tough time for Pels fans.

But its still an unrealistic view of Jose's impact and overall meaning. Either others are clueless or you aren't being realistic and you already said your mind won't be changed.

If we can have success with Jose as an undrafted then we can do it again as undrafted or 2nd rd. The ceiling is very very low already... No offense.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 9:35 am
Posted by BGpels
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:45 am to
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Look up the name, Killian Hayes, and ask Piston Fans if Weaver can identify talent. Weaver selected him over the likes of:

Tyrese Halliburton
Deni Advija
Tyrese Maxie
Payton Pritchard
...and others including Saddiq Bey


Like many other GMs.
Give me a person who is nailing their draft picks every year. At least Weaver has more hits than misses.
And again, don't mix the negotiations skills (which apparently sucks) with the scouting itself.

This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 2:14 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:54 am to
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The funny thing is that there's a strong chance ANY 19-22 y/o drafted 31-60 will end up better than Jose who already has a low arse ceiling as a career backup at 27.

Are you joking or just trolling? That comment is such nonsense. You honestly think ANY player drafted 31-60 would contribute more than 20 minutes a game and be a sparkplug off the bench? Show some facts.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 11:18 am
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Are you joking or just trolling? That comment is such nonsense. You honestly think ANY player drafted 31-60 would contribute more than 20 minutes a game and be a sparkplug off the bench? Show some facts

Neither. Y'all are just being emotional. I said any has a CHANCE. And that is 100% true, especially considering his ceiling is really low in the grand scheme of NBA basketball players.

The statement was "any 2nd rd has a chance of being better than an undrafted player". Pels talk posters over dramatize a level headed comment. what a fricking surprise. Imaging taking the most logical statement you could read and think its joking or trolling. Y'all are absolutely ridiculous.

3/4s of y'all wanted to keep Hawk > Dyson. Now I'm supposed to act like y'all are correctly evaluating a career bench player on an arse team.

Pshh get real
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:34 pm to
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3/4s of y'all wanted to keep Hawk > Dyson. Now I'm supposed to act like y'all are correctly evaluating a career bench player on an arse team.


This is true, and 99% on here thought Griff arse raped the Hawks in that trade. Of course I was in the 1% that said differently….
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:59 pm to
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said any has a CHANCE.


You said strong chance, implying that its likely, which it isnt.
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