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re: JJ Redick Podcast On The Trade To Dallas
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:43 pm to Hester Carries
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:43 pm to Hester Carries
quote:
No he didnt you fricking tardbucket.
I’m guessing you didn’t get to this part when you left elementary school and never came back, but what you want to be true doesn’t make it true.
Either JJ is a liar, which he has no history of being.
Griffin is the worst communicator in the world and despite 4-6 meetings and ongoing conversations somehow manages to signal a false understanding to JJ.
Or Griff did in fact make two explicit promises and broke them.
That or I guess you are either Trajan or Griff???
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:44 pm
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:43 pm to Bronc
Sounds like JJ wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
He fails to mention that it was his decision to leave his family in Brooklyn causing all these complications for which he wants sympathy. The whole "well, we didn't know when the season was going to start" thing is a total cop out.
Also, in general, requesting a trade after one year of a two year deal is BS. Just tough it out for one more year and collect your millions.
He fails to mention that it was his decision to leave his family in Brooklyn causing all these complications for which he wants sympathy. The whole "well, we didn't know when the season was going to start" thing is a total cop out.
Also, in general, requesting a trade after one year of a two year deal is BS. Just tough it out for one more year and collect your millions.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:44 pm to Bronc
What exactly has Griff done right so far in his time here? This is turning into a joke.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:44 pm to Bronc
What a bitch. We don’t owe you anything dude. You were here for a cup of coffee and sucked dicks and balls this year.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:46 pm to urinetrouble
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Also, in general, requesting a trade after one year of a two year deal is BS. Just tough it out for one more year and collect your millions.
And if Griff told him this then JJ would have no leg to stand on.
I really don’t have any sympathy for a guy making millions missing some kindergarten, but I do care about this franchise and Griff lying and making promises he wasn’t willing or able to keep is a problem regardless of what you think of JJ
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:47 pm to TigahJay
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What exactly has Griff done right so far in his time here? This is turning into a joke.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:47 pm to Bronc
quote:Does he talk about it again after about the 20 minute mark? Because I listened to the beginning part when he was talking about what this thread is about.
Did you listen to the podcast?
He's obviously upset.
quote:He said that Griff told him that he was going to get him somewhere that would make him happy. Then he said, after February that his understanding was "basically that I was going to get bought out". That doesn't sound like Griff promised him that he was going to get bought out, it sounds like he just assumed that he would get bought out, because the aggregate trade deadline passed and he didn't get traded to one of his desired teams.
Best case scenario here is Griff is somehow the worst communicator in the world and JJ, after an offseason sit down and 4 additional meetings post their second sit down with a formal trade request, communicated so poorly that he gave an impression to JJ that wasn’t his actual intent.
Again, if he wants to be around his kid and wife that much, he should just retire. No one is forcing him to play for Dallas. No one was forcing him to play for New Orleans this season. We have no idea what sort of negotiation went down in regards to a buyout, or if that subject was even broached.
He wants to eat his cake and have it too. He came to New Orleans over other places because the Pelicans paid him more, now he wants to play for whatever team he chooses while still making that money. How is asking for a trade not "lying". He signed a contract to play for the Pelicans for 2 years. Asking for a trade before those 2 years is up, is not living up to your contract. Is it not
ETA: it could be as simple as Griff saying, "We're going to try to get you to the place that you want to be", and JJ interpreting that as, "We're definitely going to get you to the place that you want to be".
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:47 pm to BigPerm30
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frick that dude. I had a lot of respect for him. Don’t come somewhere for the money then get pissed that they won’t trade you to where you want. You should’ve signed for less money to go to the place of your choice.
This, but also, you’re literally a multi-millionaire. Move your fricking family down here. His kids were going to one of the best lower schools in the country at Newman, why not continue?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:48 pm to hendersonshands
This is the same motherfricker who released a podcast with Tobias Harris and literally insinuated that he's going to sign with the Sixers before the trade deadline. Karma's a bitch Redick.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:49 pm to Bronc
Where does JJ say that we promised we would buy him out if no one would trade for him?
And do not quote the part where we would "work to get him somewhere" because that is not what that means.
And do not quote the part where we would "work to get him somewhere" because that is not what that means.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:50 pm to NolaTiger52
or like Epic Cajun said... retire and go home to your wife and kids.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:51 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
He said that Griff told him that he was going to get him somewhere that would make him happy. Then he said, after February that his understanding was "basically that I was going to get bought out".
And Griff did neither.
So again, you got three options:
JJ is flat out lying, despite no history or reputation for it.
Griff communicated poorly to the point his employee had chronic misconceptions
Griff in fact made these promises and failed to honor them.
Choose
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:52 pm to Hester Carries
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Where does JJ say that we promised we would buy him out if no one would trade for him?
In the fricking podcast my man, try listening before you fly off the handle making declarations you don’t even have the context for.
JJ was made promises repeatedly that culminated in either a promise of a trade to the northeast or buy out and Griff, without consultation or communication reneged on that.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:53 pm to supe12sta12z
A war between two blue devils is kind of wild.
I’m a pro Griffin guy but this feels like Reddick is confident that his side of the story is truthful,
I’m inclined to believe JJ here, will wait for the FO’s response.
I’m a pro Griffin guy but this feels like Reddick is confident that his side of the story is truthful,
I’m inclined to believe JJ here, will wait for the FO’s response.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:54 pm to Bronc
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In the fricking podcast my man, try listening before you fly off the handle making declarations you don’t even have the context for
He never says that Griffin told him we would buy him out.
HE said he thought he would be bought out. And that Griffin said he would work to get him somewhere he would be happy.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:54 pm to Bronc
Griff said, "we're going to try to get you to the place you want to be". JJ interpreting that as "we're definitely going to get you to the place that you want to be". JJ, being upset that he didn't get what he wanted, goes around telling people that Griff broke promises.
Does this grey area not make more sense than just taking one side of the story and running with it?
Again, if he really fricking cared that much, he should've just retired. He wasn't really offering anything of material value on the floor this season anyway.
Does this grey area not make more sense than just taking one side of the story and running with it?
Again, if he really fricking cared that much, he should've just retired. He wasn't really offering anything of material value on the floor this season anyway.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:56 pm to Hester Carries
quote:
He never says that Griffin told him we would buy him out.
He says explicitly that in his subsequent meetings, where there were 4 of them, he would receive a favorable accommodation, which was a continuation of the promise before the season, that had evolved into being either a trade to the northeast or a buy out.
Griff failed to communicate his reneging or a change in direction.
There is literally no reading of this you can spin positively for our FO unless you want to claim JJ is just making shite up
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:56 pm to Epic Cajun
I want to know how much salary JJ was willing to give up in a buyout
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:56 pm to Bronc
quote:
Maybe try listening and reading for once?
More like a player that attempted to make early accommodations even BEFORE the season to find a mutually beneficial situation was strung along and habitually lied to.
There is no world where James Johnson is worth burning your reputation with players.
If Griff had simply made no promises or assurances then JJ would have no gripe, but Griff and Trajan SPECIFICALLY and continually used false promises to string him along and then betrayed those promises.
Gotta wait and hear other side. JJ is spinning the most favorable picture for himself:
1. He admits in the podcast he signed with Pelicans because "truthfully they offered most money". He tries to hide this and slip it in under all the "i wanted to play with Jrue" talk
2. He says Griff told them he'd TRY his best to trade him to his preferred destination. The fact that there wasn't a market for JJ on the contract he chose to sign for more money is not Griff's fault if his trying fails to produce fruitful offers.
3. JJ acknowledges the recent push back against "buyout" market, then tries to spin though that his situation is different and that he just wants to be clsoer to his family in the North East because they have to quarantine for a week if they leave NY to come see him in NOLA. However, assuming anyone in NY is actually following that protocol, both the Sixers and Celtics, two of his "preferred" teams are also NOT in New York... so his family would still have to quarantine to come visit him just like NOLA
This is all just him wanting his cake (the more money) and eat it too (go play for a contender).
Does this possibly cost the FO some good will? Ya, sure. But I do think smaller market teams have to push back against some of the expectations of players to get paid by them and then just get traded/bought out of said larger money contract that the contenders couldn't offer them to go sign with the contender.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:59 pm to Epic Cajun
NBA players are so soft
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