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re: JJ Redick Podcast On The Trade To Dallas
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:30 am to BilJ
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:30 am to BilJ
quote:
You want to be home to help get your kid to school? Then fricking retire JJ.
JJ sounds like the guy who has several friends whose bosses gave them Mardi Gras off with pay, but JJ's boss still expects him to work or take a vacation day...
I didn't get the same deal as my friends, so my boss is an a-hole.
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:54 am to GOP_Tiger
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You think that a public statement put out by the team is the full picture of what happened? Good grief! You are being incredibly dense about this whole situation.
It's more likely that Griff's real thoughts were
Hey GOP, go frick yourself.
Ive been patient with your borderline hostile comments at me but the fact is you didn’t read a fricking thing, wanted to imply I am ignorant despite me being the only one of us two that actually bothered listening and reading both sides statements and now your response to being asked to actually stop and read what both parties have said is to handwave it away and make up your own head cannon to fit the narrative you want to be true and double down on the hostility for me not living in your preferred head cannon?
Normally I respect you as a poster, this is you at your worst though.
Accusing others of ignorance because you don’t like the conclusions they draw and then doubling down with the insults in service of bootlicking a bunch of people in an organization you don’t know.
No one gives a frick about Redick’s feelings, but poor communication with employees is not a good situation to foment or allow to occur no matter what the organization is. If you are such a boot locker that you can’t even allow that much into a conversation without lashing out, you are a far less contemplative than I have given you credit for in the past.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:59 am to Bronc
dude made a lot of money to do very little here in 2 years.
C ya
C ya
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:57 am to FMtTXtiger
Regardless of who is "right" in this situation, it's harmful for the NBA brand.
Stuff like this pushes casual/outlier fans away.
You read in the paper how a millionaire is complaining how he (for some reason) can't see his family and wanted to be released from his contract or traded where he wanted to go.
Sorry, but local fans are going to see it as "you have all the money in the world, but think so little of my city that your family can't move here?"
Airing company dirty laundry to the public is like the first thing covered on any "Customer Service" training program.
Stuff like this pushes casual/outlier fans away.
You read in the paper how a millionaire is complaining how he (for some reason) can't see his family and wanted to be released from his contract or traded where he wanted to go.
Sorry, but local fans are going to see it as "you have all the money in the world, but think so little of my city that your family can't move here?"
Airing company dirty laundry to the public is like the first thing covered on any "Customer Service" training program.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:32 pm to Bronc
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If you are such a boot locker that you can’t even allow that much into a conversation without lashing out, you are a far less contemplative than I have given you credit for in the past.
Lashing out? Did I cuss you out? Did I threaten you? Did I call you ugly names? No, I said
quote:
You are being incredibly dense about this whole situation.
That's not lashing out. If you want to be taken seriously as a poster, then act that way.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:55 pm to Bronc
quote:Does this qualify as a melt yet?
Hey GOP, go frick yourself.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 2:23 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
That's not lashing out. If you want to be taken seriously as a poster, then act that way.
You rolled in yesterday having not even bothered to listen to the podcast and began inferring my ignorance because I didn't "wait" for a statement from Griff to hear both sides.
When I made you aware and literally took the time to walk you through the statement you weren't even aware of, you started casting further aspersions about me, doubling down with the inferences to me being ignorant. Again, all while you hadn't bothered to either listen to Redick or read Griff's statement regarding the trade.
Then still, you don't bother reading the statement and go back on the attack calling me dense, why? Because I won't accept what you want to be true based on this fanfiction treatment of the situation you clearly had set out to defend based on your earliest comments, even before you ever bothered to gather any of the primary facts...And when the facts don't jive, you handwave them and come up with your own.
So yeah, I thought you were a better quality of poster than this.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 4/1/21 at 2:59 pm to Bronc
I'm sure that I am going to take advice on being a good poster from the guy calling me a bootlicker and telling me to go frick myself ... who then proceeded to tell me that I was lashing out. Dude.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:01 pm to Bronc
JJ is crying because, now that he's been traded to Dallas, he has to go another 2 months or so without seeing his kid. If it's such a big deal, hire a tutor, retire, etc. Seems like JJ should be mad at NY State for stupid rules for quarantining elementary school students. Not the Pels fault on that.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:41 pm to MikeD
Move the kid to Dallas. Done deal.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:07 pm to MikeD
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Seems like JJ should be mad at NY State for stupid rules for quarantining elementary school students. Not the Pels fault on that.
How would JJ being in Philly make it easier for him to see his son who's in NYC mega-quarantine?
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:20 pm to GOP_Tiger
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I'm sure that I am going to take advice on being a good poster from the guy calling me a bootlicker and telling me to go frick myself ... who then proceeded to tell me that I was lashing out. Dude.
Action and reaction friend.
Not sure what makes you think you can be continually disrespectful to someone and expect them to just bend over and take it indefinitely?
I responded very kindly and thoroughly to your several thinly veiled aspersions and dismissive posts thrown toward me initially, but eventually when it becomes clear you are just out to go after people for having an opinion you don't like toward the organization, what good does pretending do anyone?
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:42 pm to jmcwhrter
Philly and NYC are 90 miles apart
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:04 am to Bronc
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Not sure what makes you think you can be continually disrespectful to someone and expect them to just bend over and take it indefinitely?
I responded very kindly and thoroughly to your several thinly veiled aspersions and dismissive posts thrown toward me initially, but eventually when it becomes clear you are just out to go after people for having an opinion you don't like toward the organization, what good does pretending do anyone?
Again, let's review the only things that I said about you in this thread:
quote:
So, because Griffin didn't specifically deny making concrete promises, you just assume that he made them.
That's really dumb.
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You are being incredibly dense about this whole situation.
If those comments hurt you so incredibly bad that you needed to cuss me out, and if simply disagreeing with your opinion (which I and most others here still believe to be incorrect) earlier in the thread, is something that you interpret as "continually disrespectful," then I truly am sorry. Seriously. I don't know what you're going through right now that would cause you to react that way, but it must be bad.
I don't want to add to your pain, so I'll avoid disagreeing with you in the future.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 5:31 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Again, let's review the only things that I said about you in this thread:
I guess you conveniently left off the first two responses that implied me as being stupid and ignorant huh? When it was you who was speaking from ignorance but casting those aspersions
It’s you that has casted yourself as some innocent victim, I’m just telling you that you get out what you put in. Act like a dismissive prick before even having the facts because your default is to lick the boot, don’t be surprised when people hand it back in kind.
So again, in the spirit of your engagement toward me, go frick yourself
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 6:00 pm to Sauce Castieaux
What did they get a 2nd round pick?? In the grand scheme of things is it worth JJ bashing you in the media for a 2nd rounder... maybe if it were a different organization that didn't already have an abundance of assets I could see your point.. But a 2nd rounder is not even moving the needle for the pelicans.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 6:07 pm to TheWhitemamba16
Jokic was a 2nd rounder. Draymond was a 2nd rounder. Brogdon was a 2nd rounder. Paul Milsap, Jerami Grant, Marc Gasol, Manu Ginobli, the list goes on and on.
2nd round picks have value.
2nd round picks have value.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 6:12 pm to Soggymoss
There’s about 2-3 a year that turn out to be at least solid rotational players.
It’s not great, but to say they have no value is wrong.
And the teams/people that say they are basically trash and all luck, need to talk to Toronto, Denver, and Miami. Good teams with good scouts and good development programs that somehow seem to have quite a lot of this so-called “luck”
As for is it worth it in this case, I don’t really think the risk is worth it, but to me the problem
was and still is Griff’s failure on the communication front. And if it’s recurring, it’s a problem people need to be much less dismissive of, if it turns out to be one-off, the only big risk probably comes with Hart this offseason and dealing with the agent he and Redick share.
It’s not great, but to say they have no value is wrong.
And the teams/people that say they are basically trash and all luck, need to talk to Toronto, Denver, and Miami. Good teams with good scouts and good development programs that somehow seem to have quite a lot of this so-called “luck”
As for is it worth it in this case, I don’t really think the risk is worth it, but to me the problem
was and still is Griff’s failure on the communication front. And if it’s recurring, it’s a problem people need to be much less dismissive of, if it turns out to be one-off, the only big risk probably comes with Hart this offseason and dealing with the agent he and Redick share.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:27 pm to Bronc
I am very seriously sorry that I hurt your feelings so bad.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 3:25 am to Bronc
This thread is a mess.
The management have a responsibility to their team interests. If JJ wanted to prioritize family over money he wouldn't have signed with the Pelicans. If he wanted out of New Orleans he could retire to save them some money or accept a trade to somewhere willing to provide something in return. Without one of those two things it only benefits JJ (and the Pelicans not at all).
I liked JJ as a NBA story because of his persistent improvement that made him a real NBA player and a millionaire. More power to him for that. He was also correct RE how Jrue moving would affect his role in NOLA.
However, he played terribly (by his own standards) and consequently just wasn't valuable enough to most NBA teams as a consequence. He needs to face up to that. He still has power. He can retire now or he can finish the season with a good young team and an owner who treats his players well.
These aren't even first world problems. These are past their prime millionaire athlete annoyances.
The management have a responsibility to their team interests. If JJ wanted to prioritize family over money he wouldn't have signed with the Pelicans. If he wanted out of New Orleans he could retire to save them some money or accept a trade to somewhere willing to provide something in return. Without one of those two things it only benefits JJ (and the Pelicans not at all).
I liked JJ as a NBA story because of his persistent improvement that made him a real NBA player and a millionaire. More power to him for that. He was also correct RE how Jrue moving would affect his role in NOLA.
However, he played terribly (by his own standards) and consequently just wasn't valuable enough to most NBA teams as a consequence. He needs to face up to that. He still has power. He can retire now or he can finish the season with a good young team and an owner who treats his players well.
These aren't even first world problems. These are past their prime millionaire athlete annoyances.
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