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It was all Mo Pete's fault.

Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61506 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:04 am
Article on CP3 in Houston, but the first 1/3 has some stories of his time in NOLA.

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Two nights before the 2008 playoffs the New Orleans Hornets gathered in a ballroom at Harrah's, a hotel and casino on the edge of the French Quarter, to toast 56 wins and conceive 16 more. It felt like a rehearsal dinner, players flanked by wives or girlfriends, everybody encouraged to stand and speak. Point guard Chris Paul took his college sweetheart from Wake Forest, Jada Crawley, and even she shared a few words. But the most enduring speech was delivered by small forward Morris Peterson, who had come to New Orleans after seven forgettable seasons in Toronto. "Cherish this team, this opportunity," Peterson said. "You may think it's always going to be this way, and you're always going to have a shot. But I've been around the NBA a long time, and you don't always have a shot. Things happen in this league. Injuries happen. Trades happen. You don't know if you'll ever be in this position again."

Paul, then 22 and in his third season with the team, eyed Peterson as if the vet had ordered too many Sazeracs. Man, listen, Paul thought, I'm going to win MVP in two weeks and then I'm going to win it again. I'm going to have a shot at this every year. He was the successor to Steve Nash, a mantle that consumed him since he was a rookie, stewing all night before an early-season showdown against the Suns. He wanted that game desperately, but coach Byron Scott subbed him out for his usual rest at the start of the fourth quarter while Mike D'Antoni rode Nash, and a 14-point lead vanished in what felt like seven seconds. Paul fumed, but 22 months later the Hornets were surging and the Suns fading, following the career arcs of their incandescent point guards. I'm Steve now, Paul told himself, and only the most manic Deron Williams devotee could argue.

Paul adored those 2008 Hornets, the rollicking team dinners at his condo downtown and the heated game nights at Tyson Chandler's house in the suburbs. They traveled in packs a dozen deep, like on one Saturday night in Toronto, when they rolled into a popular club called Muzik. At midnight, early by T Dot standards, small forward Bonzi Wells noticed Paul paying the bill and calling the cars. "O.K.," Wells sighed, "I guess it's time to leave." The Hornets solemnly filed out of the club, then throttled the Raptors the next day for their 50th win. They hung together and scrapped together. Before practices, backup point guard Mike James would tell Paul, "I'm going at your neck!" Afterward, he'd leave muttering, "Little s---." Paul mastered the pick-and-roll with power forward David West, cash from 17 feet, but he could not persuade the sweet-shooting big man to step out to the three-point line. "Peezy," West cooed, "that's fool's gold."

It was a strange but sublime period in New Orleans, the city recovering from Hurricane Katrina and the franchise mulling whether to build or bolt. The Hornets practiced at the Alario Center in Jefferson Parish, but they would get booted for gun conventions and bird shows. A proposed training facility turned into a bank when funding lagged. "One time the front office told us we were moving to Kansas City," Paul recalls. "Another time, San Diego." They were informed they could not stay without reaching an attendance threshold. "No way we hit it," thought forward Ryan Bowen. But the 2008 Hornets earned the second seed in the Western Conference, pummeled the Mavericks in the first round and jumped out to a 2–0 lead on the Spurs. After Game 2, Paul glanced at the San Antonio bench and was met by a sickening image. "Nobody was fazed," he says. The Spurs won in seven. Kobe Bryant edged Paul for MVP. Mo Pete's words lingered.

Injuries happened. Trades happened. Ten years passed. The Hornets became the Pelicans, and the Bobcats became the Hornets. Paul became the players association president, the State Farm pitchman, the Point God. Jada became his wife. Weary of instability in New Orleans, they swung a move to Los Angeles and raised two children, Chris Jr. and Camryn.

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Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17480 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:30 am to
I miss that team
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8245 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:50 am to
Still can't believe Pargo took that last shot, damnit.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25565 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:38 pm to
It was all whoever the idiot that decided to trade Tyson for peanuts fault. Mo Pete was first to go if I recall correctly, he was traded in a dump with a first round pick.

Would have been nice to build upon that team.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:53 pm to
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It was all whoever the idiot that decided to trade Tyson for peanuts fault


This. Everyone justified it saying he would never be healthy or some shite. It was the first domino.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2125 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:20 pm to
Agreed that Chandler first domino, but it wasn't a terrible trade. Okafor was averaging 14/11 and Chandler's injury concerns were legit at the time. Okafor was not a disaster here like Asik, but we really missed Chandler's athleticism.

Related, when I looked up Okafor it was spell checked to Enema Okafor.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5873 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:33 pm to
CP has said that as soon as we traded Chandler, it was the beginning of the end for him in NOLA
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10188 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:35 pm to



Was my desktop screensaver that year
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25565 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
The original Chandler trade was not for okafor. It was for Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox if I remember correctly and they both sucked. It was purely a salary saving trade.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
FAN UP



Also we wouldn’t have been in a salary shed mode if it wasn’t for James Posey’s awful contract.


That contract fricked the books up bigly
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:41 pm to
That picture !

Remember when Juju had that steal, save from out of bounds and dunk all on the same play. Announcer was all pumped acting like we hit the lottery with that pick.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:43 pm to
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The original Chandler trade was not for okafor. It was for Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox if I remember correctly and they both sucked. It was purely a salary saving trade.


That trade was rescinded for a failed physical. The real trade was Okafor.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Agreed that Chandler first domino, but it wasn't a terrible trade.
It was terrible from the sense that it caused CP and West to lose all trust in management.

Reading the story above, it is funny that he said managment told them they were moving to KC or San Diego. I met with Shinn once and he told me he was looking at moving to Norfolk. His team was hemorrhaging money and he was looking to grab some cash from a community looking for a team.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25565 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:04 pm to
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That trade was rescinded for a failed physical


Correct, and it pissed off cp3 and west beyond repair. Had the original trade been for okafor, it would have been perceived a lot different.
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11657 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:36 pm to
If we had stable, competent ownership and management we would’ve won at least 1 championship with that squad.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:38 pm to
If the Hornets go into San Antonio and win game 3, a game Chris Paul and David West dominated, they win that series in 4-5.

Tough to say what would've happened against LA, who walked all over the Spurs the next round. That was easily one of the best playoff series that Kobe ever played.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:58 pm to
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was purely a salary saving trade.


Yup. They weren't sure they could make payroll
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61506 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Yup. They weren't sure they could make payroll


I don't think people realize just how bad things were even though the team getting taken over by the league screams how bad it was. People always rip trading Bayless after 10 games like they were trying to undo a #basketballreasons mistake. That was a money move and a hell of a trade considering the desperate circumtances.

I remember a few days after the trade the Houston beat writer for BasketballInsiders used the word bankruptcy in an article on the trade. A word/sentence I quoted here and he later deleted. The team got bought out by the league about a month later. They made that trade dumping Peja to cut salary enough to make another payroll before needing the league to step in and buy the team.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63525 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:21 pm to
Tyson allegedly had an injury that couldn’t be healed. More like a weak George Shinn bank account, imo.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:38 pm to
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I don't think people realize just how bad things were even though the team getting taken over by the league screams how bad it was. People always rip trading Bayless after 10 games like they were trying to undo a #basketballreasons mistake. That was a money move and a hell of a trade considering the desperate circumtances.

I remember a few days after the trade the Houston beat writer for BasketballInsiders used the word bankruptcy in an article on the trade. A word/sentence I quoted here and he later deleted. The team got bought out by the league about a month later. They made that trade dumping Peja to cut salary enough to make another payroll before needing the league to step in and buy the team.

Shinn was maxing out loans from the NBA and other sources.
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