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Is this the lowest point in the history of this franchise

Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:26 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133603 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:26 am
I am specifically referring to Benson ownership so "Pelicans" franchise

1) Hired Dumars, a complete bum that hadn't been an NBA lead exec in 20 years with no search

2) Hired Weaver, an abysmal GM with a losing record

3) Coming off two seasons with less than 50 wins COMBINED.

4) Made a draft day trade that every NBA person thought was one of the most baffling and terrible of all time

5) Didn't have a draft pick in the last draft, considered one of the deepest and best of the last decade as a result of that trade

6) The player picked in that trade just had a bizarre moment go viral

7) FO, after less than 50 wins combined the previous two years decided the roster was good and did nothing

8) Player spends a whole season shitting on the franchise and isn't traded, and continues to take shots at franchise on twitter (and deletes it)

9) Another player traded for is so bad that he can't play at all on a huge contract, and also takes shots at the franchise and wants out bad

10) Start the season 0-4, now have the one of the worst 3 game stretches in team history, up there in league history as all time bad

11) Last year Ownership quiet quit, did not have an events or promo schedule and thought no one would notice. Someone eventually did and they came up with a promo schedule

12) Rumors circulating that the Benson camp let leak during Renovation negotiations that a buyer was out there that wants to move the team to KC



Anyone that spent all offseason defending this shite is not a fan. This is as low as it gets. They either need to just sell (and maybe we lose the team), or Gayle has to get serious about this franchise for once.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 8:41 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
181885 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:31 am to
This is a player’s league and we have shite players. Players in the NBA face no consequences. I’m not quite sure what you think. Gail Dumars or Mosley are really supposed to do. The only thing possible is to throw the rotten apples off the team while they sit home getting paid $30 million.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133603 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:32 am to
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This is a player’s league and we have shite players.


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I’m not quite sure what you think...Dumars...really supposed to do.


Uh
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
181885 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:34 am to
And you think teams were ringing their phone off the hook for our shite players. Most of these assholes were here already.
Posted by Buck Dancer
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
4923 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:35 am to
Gayle will never get serious about the Pelicans. She is rich and the sale price when the Pels do sell won't affect her bottom line much, she still be stinking rich.

I used to think she was just apathetic about the Pels , but I'm starting to believe she is purposely tanking the Pels team so when she moves the team or sells it she won't get much backlash. Keep tanking the team, draw local interest as low as possible and then sell the team / move it and not face as much negative local press. And she can still parade around New Orleans acting like the savior she thinks she is.

Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4687 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:41 am to
70 more games of this shite. This is going to get a whole lot worse this season
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
545 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:43 am to
Gayle is the worst owner in professional sports.

The C-Suite level executives have been in their positions for waaaayyyyy too long and are a bunch of arrogant assholes.

She hired Dumars without even a single interview for another candidate.

Both teams will be significantly better off once they're sold, torn down to the studs and rebuilt in the vision of an owner who actually knows what the hell they are doing.

Also believe it's long overdue for the Pels to be owned by a separate owner than the Saints. They'll never get the attention and direction they need until that is done.
Posted by Buck Dancer
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
4923 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:49 am to
All while sitting courtside smiling not giving a frick that the team is horrendous. As long as she can be the face of the city . There is no way she can be that fricking stupid, its all a game. Drop the team so low she will be doing a favor selling it/moving it and can still parade around New Orleans protecting pedo priests.

She's been playing with house money ever since getting with Tom.

She is the worst.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133603 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:54 am to
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And you think teams were ringing their phone off the hook for our shite players. Most of these assholes were here already.



I know you just want to be contrarian on here but stop being a character for once

Its his job. Other GMs routinely make trades of bad players. He did nothing this offeason

And the reason is that after the Queen trade, every GM in the league is trying to rape him on every trade. They know he is a bum in way over his head and he doesn't have a clue what he is doing. He just doesn't know how to do this

And it shows.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
181885 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:00 am to
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but stop being a character for once



you can't stop trying to gain leverage on me spouting bullshite.

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Its his job. Other GMs routinely make trades of bad players. He did nothing this offeason


we had a new coaching staff. it is sort of fair to give the new coach a chance at putting this talent together. sort of what you hired him for.

i'll say this. we aren't privy to a lot of information there is to be known. should we know murray is an a-hole. what sort of a-hole has he been. were we trying to work up his value and get his arse out of here. what was our plan?

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And the reason is that after the Queen trade, every GM in the league is trying to rape him on every trade. They know he is a bum in way over his head and he doesn't have a clue what he is doing. He just doesn't know how to do this


so you now know all the deals proposed and everything. you're just literally making up shite right now. and you're mad that dumars did not make trades that would have "rape him" cause he done "got raped". you're posting just a lot of emotional drama.


what i think. The organization better know the keepers and the get ridders. The biggest questions i have is 1. what is trey murphy to this organization? 2. Herb Jones, is he a problem now or was he just acting out due to being surrounded by assholes. Also, herb has very limited offensive game and that's a fault of his own that has held this team back over years too.


we probably need to rid ourselves of zion. his value is highish, healthy and not completely obese and playing ball. trade him, reset organization, never allow a poison player to step back on the court. looking at Dejounte and not sure about poole.

Focus on fears, Missi, Karlo, Bey, Trey, herb, queen etc.

Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13892 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:04 am to
It’s pretty bad Bunch. But we all saw this coming from a mile away. Didn’t think it’d be this much drama with Dejounte though.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 9:05 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133603 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:05 am to
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you can't stop trying to gain leverage on me spouting bullshite.



You play a character on here. Most of what you post isn't real.

quote:

we had a new coaching staff.


So fricking what

Its his second offseason. He did almost literally nothing

How many offseasons should Dumars get before we can judge him?

I didn't read the rest of your nonsense
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32561 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:06 am to
Lowest Point?

Yeah. This is actually hopeless feeling.

1. Vets (Murray, Poole) are seemingly locker room cancers
2. Young guys (Queen, Fears, Missi) are not growing as well as you'd hope 2-3 years into their careers
3. Mid-Age vets are maxed out (Williamson, Murphy)
4. Your "lunch pail guys" are seemingly quitting too (Jones, Bey)

This is seriously problematic and even a respected guy like Mosley can't even get it fixed.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13892 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:08 am to
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Focus on fears, Missi, Karlo, Bey, Trey, herb, queen etc.

Even this is a whole bunch of mid. Trey and Herb can go. There’s literally no one on this team I wouldn’t listen to offers for at this point.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
181885 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:08 am to
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You play a character on here. Most of what you post isn't real.



Can't even argue without bullshite from you.

Throw tantrums, can't talk specifics.

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Its his second offseason. He did almost literally nothing


i guess if you don't include the things he did do, then you are down to nothing i suppose.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
181885 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:09 am to
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Even this is a whole bunch of mid.


we're aiming for mid right now.

I would listen to trey and herb but we need value to depart with them.
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
545 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:15 am to
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Chad504boy


I don't post much on here. Most just enjoy reading opinions and nonsense.

I'm not going to go into many details but as someone who worked in that building on Airline Drive for a very lengthy amount of time, it's pretty amusing how dumb your loyalty and support of Gayle Benson and her posse makes you look.

I got out of there years ago because it's a toxic environment from the top down. It all starts with HER and her inability to do anything b/c she has no idea what she is doing. Both organizations are run by people who have been in their positions for way too long, are no longer qualified to get the job done, and are only in those positions b/c they're friends of Gayle. It's why she's seen ZERO success as an owner of either team.

The only logical explanation for your undying allegiance to them is you are a burner account for one of the VPs themselves.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
181885 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:27 am to
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I'm not going to go into many details but as someone who worked in that building on Airline Drive for a very lengthy amount of time, it's pretty amusing how dumb your loyalty and support of Gayle Benson and her posse makes you look.

I got out of there years ago because it's a toxic environment from the top down. It all starts with HER and her inability to do anything b/c she has no idea what she is doing. Both organizations are run by people who have been in their positions for way too long, are no longer qualified to get the job done, and are only in those positions b/c they're friends of Gayle. It's why she's seen ZERO success as an owner of either team.



Maybe i argue too far on the other side because she gets attacked a bit too far on the other side. At the end of the day, 99% of them are owners that hire people to do a job. She's no different. She spends money, she's loyal to the city, she does want success and is involved with both organizations. It does no good for an owner to behave like a child in front of the public. I'm not sure what expectations of "actions" yall have but most of people's bullshite starts and ends with she was tom's widow, has a vagina, and something something catholic church. Dumars is there to do a job, when enough time has passed and this is deemed a failure, she'll make a move. Joe was an expensive get for Gayle, it wasn't bc she got Joe because she's cheap.

Our best case scenario is forcing Joe to hire a new GM of title sorts and give him full power over roster and trades. Hire someone young and upcoming underneath the veteran tutilige so to speak of Joe Dumars being the laisance between Gayle and the team and force Joe to fix the culture.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13203 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:31 am to
I was thinking about my Least Favorite Pels and as much as I loathe Murray and what’s going on…

Eric Gordon and that whole period still happened.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
18341 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:02 am to
But other than that everything is fine.
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