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re: Is this team better without Brandon Ingram?

Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:03 pm to
Im sorry they had their two best players on a day of rest. We didn’t and were on back to back. This is a great quality win. This is basically a playoff caliber team at full strength- they just beat the cavs game before without Bam. I think you need to get out of your feelings of constantly shitting on the quality teams we beat. Im happy for the win and its a GREAT quality win. Im not exactly sure what a quality win is for you??!
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10448 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:12 pm to
It was really Bam who won that game for them during the last matchup. He dominated the 4th quarter of that game. We neutralized him tonight.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:13 pm to
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This is a great quality win

i agree, to a point..

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This is basically a playoff caliber team at full strength-

except they weren't... you can sugar coat it all you want... that's cool, but it doesn't change the fact that Herro, Robinson, and Love were all out tonight... again, i'm just referencing that to keep this in the correct context... i love that we won tonight.... i love that we win ANY night... but i'm not going to act like we are legit contenders b/c we beat the current 8 seed in the East without 3 important guys in their lineup.... i guess that's where you and i differ, and it's all good... at the end of the day, we on the same side, we just see things a little differently

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I think you need to get out of your feelings of constantly shitting on the quality teams we beat

i think you are projecting a little with this one, bro...

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Im not exactly sure what a quality win is for you?

beat a top 4, in either conference... that's a quality win, IMO... sure, i may be a tougher judge/critic than others here, but it is what it is...

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quality teams

your criteria for "quality" teams is clearly lower than mine... we are the 5 seed in the harder division, and ascending... the Heat are the 8 seed in the lesser division and dropping... in my book, this is a game we SHOULD win, IMO, even on the road, and yes, even without BI
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 10:14 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5741 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:14 pm to
Have a downvote.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:20 pm to
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except they weren't... you can sugar coat it all you want... that's cool, but it doesn't change the fact that Herro, Robinson, and Love were all out tonight... again, i'm just referencing that to keep this in the correct context... i love that we won tonight.... i love that we win ANY night... but i'm not going to act like we are legit contenders b/c we beat the current 8 seed in the East without 3 important guys in their lineup.... i guess that's where you and i differ, and it's all good... at the end of the day, we on the same side, we just see things a little differently


Ok now balance it out by us on a back to back without BI and Dyson. You’re strictly looking at the opponents disadvantage and not ours.

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i think you are projecting a little with this one, bro...


Probably lol

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beat a top 4, in either conference... that's a quality win, IMO... sure, i may be a tougher judge/critic than others here, but it is what it is...


So basically you think any 80 percent of the games we play aren’t great quality? Top 4 is way too strict of a standard. We’re currently not even a top 4 team in our conference.

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in my book, this is a game we SHOULD win, IMO, even on the road, and yes, even without BI


I think your expectations are a little ridiculous. This isnt a title contending team. If everything falls right maybe west conf finals- maybe. More like first round win; second round exit team.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:36 pm to
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So basically you think any 80 percent of the games we play aren’t great quality

it's clearly always going to be a sliding scale, that varies from year to year, and even within the year, as evidence is provided by the team....

if this team was utter shite and was floundering around the 10 seed, then yes, this would be a "quality win", IMO... but we are better than them, by a large margin, IMO... thus, this doesn't meet MY threshold for a "quality" win.... doesn't make either of us "right", it just means that our thresholds for "quality" is different.... why you are so obsessed with HAVING to designate this as a "quality" win is a little weird to me.... i've already stated i'm happy with the win, is that not good enough for you?

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Top 4 is way too strict of a standard.

that's your opinion, and that's all fine and dandy... you are allowed to have that, just as I have mine... you don't see me berating you and trying to change your standard... you do you bro... it's all good...

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We’re currently not even a top 4 team in our conference.

i know... which is why my threshold of quality is "punching up" and defeating teams BETTER than us... i don't see teams below us as "quality", whether at home or on the road...again, that's my threshold, you don't have to have the same opinion, and that's all cool with me
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I think your expectations are a little ridiculous

cool... you can be cool with status quo... i'd rather this team get to a point where wins like this are more expect... again, same side, just different point of view
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This isnt a title contending team.
nope, not this year... but we are on the cusp of being one of those teams that is right there in the conversation
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71024 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:39 pm to
I swear, win or lose, this board can't make it through one game with two posters fighting to the death.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:42 pm to
This team is better when BI or CJ is out. We seem to struggle a bit when both are in there. Their style of play is somewhat redundant.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71024 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:43 pm to
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This team is better when BI or CJ is out.


*sigh*
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:45 pm to
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I swear, win or lose, this board can't make it through one game with two posters fighting to the death.

i agree, bruh...
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:45 pm to
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but we are better than them, by a large margin, IMO... thus, this doesn't meet MY threshold for a "quality" win.... doesn't make either of us "right", it just means that our thresholds for "quality" is different.... why you are so obsessed with HAVING to designate this as a "quality" win is a little weird to me.... i've already stated i'm happy with the win, is that not good enough for you?


Why do you think we’re better than a team that went to the nba finals by a large margin? Again unrealistic expectations.
Because the criticism of you saying this isnt a great quality win is kind of ridiculous. Your posting your opinion- so I have a right to criticize your ridiculous standards. Kind of how it works.

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you don't see me berating you and trying to change your standard


If you’re going to post ridiculous statements on a message board don’t get sensitive when people call you out on them.

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cool... you can be cool with status quo... i'd rather this team get to a point where wins like this are more expect... again, same side, just different point of view


16 games over .500 is status quo???! Again ridiculous standards.





Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:46 pm to
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i agree, bruh...


I think hes referring to BOTH of us. Takes two to argue.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:49 pm to
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This team is better when BI or CJ is out.

never go full retard, bro...

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We seem to struggle a bit when both are in there.

yet, we've managed to only win 32 of the 48 games they've played together this season...

Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:51 pm to
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Your posting your opinion- so I have a right to criticize your ridiculous standards. Kind of how it works.

you are exhausting..... i give up... you win... will that make it ok for you? can you please just move the frick on at this point, if i just tell you you win?

Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:53 pm to
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you are exhausting..... i give up... you win... will that make it ok for you? can you please just move the frick on at this point, if i just tell you you win?


Im not trying to “win.” Lol do whatever makes you happy. There is an ability you have of just ignoring what I post as well.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:56 pm to
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cool... you can be cool with status quo... i'd rather this team get to a point where wins like this are more expect... again, same side, just different point of view


16 games over .500 is status quo???! Again ridiculous standards.



you don't really do comprehension too good huh? i'm saying it's cool if you want to remain at status quo, being happy we are beating teams beneath us... that's what i'm saying about "status quo"... i'm kind of ashamed, for you, that i have to explain it so simply for you

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don’t get sensitive

i don't even think you can comprehend the absolutely insane amount of irony of you posting this statement right now

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Why do you think we’re better than a team that went to the nba finals by a large margin?

b/c i have fully functioning eyes... i don't just go by "last years" shite... if you can't see that the Pelicans, right now, are CLEARLY a better team than the Heat, then i really don't know what to tell you....

Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23631 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:57 pm to
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Im not trying to “win.”

oh, trust me, it's quite apparent with your rebuttals...

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Lol do whatever makes you happy.

i'd like to, but here you are...
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8987 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:02 pm to
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i'd like to, but here you are...


Lol you do realize im not physically in front of you right? You can easily not look at my posts and not respond.

You keep responding yet I’m the one trying to “win.” Even if I win its not a great quality win so it doesn’t matter lol. Now if you were fully intellectually there- thats a quality win- just joking. I’m tired you can have the last word.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110998 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:40 pm to
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never go full retard, bro...
BI off, Zion off, CJ off

BI on, Zion off, CJ off

BI off, Zion on, CJ off

BI off, Zion off, CJ on

BI on, Zion on, CJ off

BI on, Zion off, CJ on

BI off, Zion on, CJ on

BI on, Zion on, CJ on


7 of those 8 combinations have a positive net rating, want to guess which one has the negative net rating?

Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12216 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:40 pm to
Against some teams yes. Against others no. It’s all about matchups
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