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re: I’ll take Mark Williams and PJ Washington for BI and Val

Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8782 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:57 pm to
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Dyson hasn’t shown flashes like Trey showed early.


I disagree with this, Dyson has shown flashes of being special defensively already.

I wish his offensive game was coming along quicker but we knew what we were getting when we signed up for this. He was super young (he played almost his entire rookie year at 19) with a mediocre season of G League offense under his belt. I'm not surprised this hasn't been a quick thing.

What the Pels need to do is decide if they are committed to developing him. If they are, I think he will become an important part of this team for years to come. If they aren't committed to it, they should look at dealing him. I would guess his value is still very high amongst the league.



Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8782 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:59 pm to
BTW, for the people talking about Jeremy Sochan- his offensive game isn't any good either
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:01 pm to
“ I would guess his value is still very high amongst the league.”

- Honestly, I don’t think so. Its in our best interest to keep developing him because I doubt he has much trade value currently.
Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3714 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:43 pm to
STUPIDITY would be giving that soft MFer 300 million
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42361 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

“ I would guess his value is still very high amongst the league.”

- Honestly, I don’t think so. Its in our best interest to keep developing him because I doubt he has much trade value currently.


Why not use the quote function on the site? I'm hoping you don't type all of those sentences out again.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42361 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:58 pm to
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Looking more and more like the Lakers punked Griffin on the AD trade, doesn’t it?


The Lakers won a Mikey Mouse championship. If the Pels don't win a championship with BI or guys from those picks, it can always be argued that the Lakers won that trade. But it doesn't mean that DG got punked. He got as much out of AD as you could possibly get. That's all you can ask for.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:07 pm to
I agree Griffin did well on the trade. I don’t agree that it was a so called “Mickey Mouse” championship though. I get the whole bubble thing but they won that sucker. I would take a championship like that any day.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68819 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 7:52 pm to
Griff did as well as he could do with the hand he was dealt.
Posted by Honest Man
Member since Feb 2021
1053 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:53 am to
LMAO miss what? People act like BI is top 20 player. The standard is so low in new Orleans
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:53 am to
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The amount of people who assured me that drafting a center in the 1st was a terrible idea sure are eager now to use assets to look for an upgrade at the position…


Drafting someone who may or may not be good enough to play in the nba isn’t the same as trading for a guy that has already proven he can play in the nba.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:14 am to
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LMAO miss what? People act like BI is top 20 player. The standard is so low in new Orleans


The standard is "he likes us."

shite id love everyone if I got paid 50m to do so
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:22 am to
Peak BI is one of the best offensive players in the league that also is good enough on defense with his super long arms. The problem is either through injury, mindset, or not fitting with Zion, we only see Peak BI about 20 games a year, and most of those have seemed to happen without Zion making you question the fit until we can get more data.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17655 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:33 am to
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Peak BI is one of the best offensive players in the league

Debatable. He’s very good at midrange shot, and pretty much refuses to do anything else.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:12 am to
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pretty much refuses to do anything else.


The last 15 games of last season he averaged 28.6/8.1/6.6 on 51/38/90 splits. He only took 3 3s per game, but he got to the line 7.5 times per game in that stretch vs. 6 FTAs for the entire season.

His full season numbers were 24.7/5.5/5.8. So 4 more points, 2.5 more assists and almost one more rebound per game. Peak BI created and attacked more which is what we need him to do. I was not suggesting we could get him for more than 20ish games a year, the injury history and potential fit with Zion are still legit questions. I'm just saying there's a reason the team and many fans still think this can work.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9140 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:47 am to
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Debatable. He’s very good at midrange shot, and pretty much refuses to do anything else.


I was going to comment on the ignorance of this post, but TigerinAtl beat me to it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:57 am to
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51/38/90 splits.
We need the efficiency from him for the season, not just 15 games.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56556 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:26 pm to
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You’ll miss BI if he’s gone. Promise.
we’ve been in NBA purgatory with him. Idk about this.
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