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re: I went to the Memphis Reddit forum and it's depression central
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:47 am to Bronc
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:47 am to Bronc
What makes picking Kira a dumb pick is the history of picking guys that small in the lottery, especially ones that aren't super athletic. Yeah he's fast, but he's no Fox or Morant, who are both a lot longer than him and much more athletic at playing above the rim.
Same logic can be applied to Hayes. How often does a project big work out when you pick them in the lottery? Not very often, so knowing that, made it a very risky pick and it's not working out, as expected.
This is common knowledge stuff that is well documented, that our front office should know, and they should be doing their own research on things like that so that they can maximize their chances in the draft, same with the history of teams moving back in the draft rarely winning that trade.
Same logic can be applied to Hayes. How often does a project big work out when you pick them in the lottery? Not very often, so knowing that, made it a very risky pick and it's not working out, as expected.
This is common knowledge stuff that is well documented, that our front office should know, and they should be doing their own research on things like that so that they can maximize their chances in the draft, same with the history of teams moving back in the draft rarely winning that trade.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
The Pels have too much uncertainties to say they're in a better situation than Memphis.
The Pels have almost no good bench players (Graham, Hart and Herb only, Murphy also but a rookie)
Ingram isn't really a star and isn't "a great #2". Else the Pels already would know a PO appareance...
We even don't know if Zion want to be a long run Pel..Especially when the team is 2-12...
The team must rely draft picks to do a good rebuild but we even don't know if Griffin can consistently draft well when he hasn't the 1st pick.
The Pels have almost no good bench players (Graham, Hart and Herb only, Murphy also but a rookie)
Ingram isn't really a star and isn't "a great #2". Else the Pels already would know a PO appareance...
We even don't know if Zion want to be a long run Pel..Especially when the team is 2-12...
The team must rely draft picks to do a good rebuild but we even don't know if Griffin can consistently draft well when he hasn't the 1st pick.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:36 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:
It’s really not all gloom and doom over there. At least Morant 100% wants to be there and he’s proven his upside is dropping an efficient 50 in the playoffs against a defense anchored by Gobert.
Through his 2nd contract at least
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:38 am to nicj4
I think it's safe to say the Pels have the higher upside while the Grizzlies give you more competitive certainty over the next half decade.
Grizz, barring major injury, are going to be what they always are for the next 5 years+, which is a playoff level team that can beat any team on a given night and you are going to have an enjoyable time being a fan of as long as you accept your team is not going to be a legit contender.
Grizz, barring major injury, are going to be what they always are for the next 5 years+, which is a playoff level team that can beat any team on a given night and you are going to have an enjoyable time being a fan of as long as you accept your team is not going to be a legit contender.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:58 am to Bronc
The fact Brandon Clarke is playing garbage time for the Grizz tells me they need a new head coach.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:14 am to urinetrouble
quote:
Not sure why your post got downvoted, because it’s the truth. Memphis is in a much better situation than the Pelicans right now.
Why? The are a middling team. Their best player has already likely reached his ceiling. By the end of last season nobody was even comparing Zion and Ja, it was just understood Zion was better. Just bc Zion is hurt this year doesn't automatically change the calculus on which prospect was the right choice.
Looking ahead, Memphis doesn't have anyone else on the roster that is All Star caliber right now. It's Memphis, so they aren't a FA destination.
The Zion lottery ticket was worth it then and is still worth it now.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:49 am to Billy Mays
quote:
Their best player has already likely reached his ceiling
Ja Morant has progressed in all statistics this season compared to last season (from 19 to 26 points per game).
He seems to be a better shooter, better at playmaking than he already was, better on the defensive side... If he doesn't have serious injuries, I think Ja hasn't finished surprising us.
Ja Morant has really a superstar potential imo but everything will also depend on the players around him...
However his physique may limit him...
quote:
Memphis doesn't have anyone else on the roster that is All Star caliber right now. It's Memphis, so they aren't a FA destination
NO isn't a FA destination either...We must rely draft picks and smart trades thus.
Griffin hasn't shown he consistently can do these both things atm...
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:46 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
What makes picking Kira a dumb pick is the history of picking guys that small in the lottery, especially ones that aren't super athletic. Yeah he's fast, but he's no Fox or Morant, who are both a lot longer than him and much more athletic at playing above the rim.
Same logic can be applied to Hayes. How often does a project big work out when you pick them in the lottery? Not very often, so knowing that, made it a very risky pick and it's not working out, as expected.
This is common knowledge stuff that is well documented, that our front office should know, and they should be doing their own research on things like that so that they can maximize their chances in the draft, same with the history of teams moving back in the draft rarely winning that trade.
Griffin is the same one that took:
Waiters
Bennett
in the top 5 back to back drafts.
idk man, I think he needs to let go of some of that decision making to TL
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:54 am to htran90
quote:
Griffin is the same one that took:
Waiters
Bennett
in the top 5 back to back drafts
and i brought that up multiple times when he was hired as to why i didn't like the hire, but i was told to not worry about that.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:08 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
Same logic can be applied to Hayes. How often does a project big work out when you pick them in the lottery? Not very often, so knowing that, made it a very risky pick and it's not working out, as expected.
The '19 draft was pretty shallow after Zion and Ja. Best players NOLA could've realistically gotten at #8 were:
Rui Hachimura (same position as Zion)
Cam Reddish (who was lowkey feuding w/ Zion at the time)
Cam Johnson (same position as Zion)
Tyler Herro (who no one truly saw coming)
Matisse Thybulle (at #8?)
Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:56 am to NOLAbaby
That’s why you stay at 4 and pick Garland or Hunter…
And FYI, Cam Reddish and Zion are still close, Cam Johnson and Rui could very much play with Zion, and Herro is why you pay the supposed boy genius talent evaluator Trajan Langdon to be your GM, because he can supposedly identify talent others don’t see.
The amount of excusemaking for a FO that has produced this putrid of a roster is really a demonstration of the power of the human mind to deny reality
And FYI, Cam Reddish and Zion are still close, Cam Johnson and Rui could very much play with Zion, and Herro is why you pay the supposed boy genius talent evaluator Trajan Langdon to be your GM, because he can supposedly identify talent others don’t see.
The amount of excusemaking for a FO that has produced this putrid of a roster is really a demonstration of the power of the human mind to deny reality
Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:05 am to NOLAbaby
Thanks for the laugh. This post is inaccurate on almost every level. It’s like you tried to be as wrong as possible with every example you provided lol.
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