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re: I think Jrue has proven he isn't worth the long term investment

Posted on 12/12/16 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 11:44 am to
Who else are the Pels going to be able to sign?

Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23367 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 11:50 am to
If we assume he is healthy going forward we should keep him for sure. I don't trust our training staff to evaluate anything properly.

Also it may hurt our relationship with AD as I doubt we get anything if he went elsewhere.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Who else are the Pels going to be able to sign?


The realistic options are:

Pay Holiday
Trade for Rubio
Pay Patty Mills like a starter to leave the Spurs
Keep Tyreke as your PG (Not an option if Gentry stays)
Sign Darren Collison
Sign Brandon Jennings

Long term everyone on this list probably costs at least $10 million less per year than Holiday, but in cap dollars this offseason Holiday's cap hold is only $16 million, so that $10 million difference won't matter until 2018. That being said, the team has painted itself into a corner enough that this reminds me too much of the Asik situation.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:09 pm to
Or draft

Can pair a rookie PG with Frazier for another year
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35405 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Who else are the Pels going to be able to sign?


Draft Fultz, Fox, or Ball.

Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 5:57 pm to
From what I found out Dell is an Idiot he had a chance last year to trade Jrue for a young player with star potential and he said no.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31879 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

From what I found out Dell is an Idiot he had a chance last year to trade Jrue for a young player with star potential and he said no.



dont be surprised.

this is the same guy that dindt move ryno or EG for ANYTHING at all.
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35405 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:05 pm to
Watch Jrue go back to Philly on a max next year
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:06 pm to
EG didn't want to be here and missed an entire season and GSW still offered Klay for him and he said nah.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:13 pm to
Just know this guy is certified star potential not just if he puts certain things together.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:21 pm to
either Play or resign... we should have gotten klay lol
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31879 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:17 pm to
Wasn't all the rumblings saying the klay trade was never available.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:52 pm to
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EG didn't want to be here and missed an entire season and GSW still offered Klay for him and he said nah.


That's not what happened. Demps tried to do EG for Thompson and GS found it so laughable they leaked the offer so others could laugh too and they did.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:04 pm to
How do you send a DM?
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3030 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:17 pm to
Why not just tell us what the offer was?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:17 pm to
TD doesn't let you send DMs. I just sent you one on PR.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:38 pm to
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Why not just tell us what the offer was?


Whoever it was is probably believable. After the trade deadline last year Zach Lowe said the Pels were over valuing Holiday "like he was Westbrook." so they obviously passed on something pretty significant.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:51 pm to
Yes I don't really care I hate when people use vague shite too. Wolves offered Lavine for Jrue and Dell said no on last year trade deadline
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3030 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:51 pm to
That's really depressing. We gotta fire Dell, like now.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:19 am to
quote:

We gotta fire Dell, like now.


We have gotten to the point where everything we do until we trade AD will be about pleasing AD. Convincing him that trading the 2nd best player on the team will help them get better seems like it'd be a pretty hard sell. And you're right, Demps isn't the person to make that pitch. It'd be nice if ownership cared enough to make a move now and bring in JVG before the trade deadline. Moving or not moving Holiday has huge implications and that decision is probably going to be made by someone that will not have the same vision as the GM for the rest of the AD era.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 8:21 am
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